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We live in a great country. No doubt she is great. And yet as we celebrate this year's Independence Day, pride in America is at an all-time low. So where do we go from here?

In this episode, Melissa and Bishop Wright have a conversation about our country, the great experiment of democracy she is, and that at the heart of patriotism is a person that can hold in tension both the things we need to lament about and the things we hope for. Listen in for the full conversation.

Before listening, read For Faith.

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