In this episode, Jennie sits down with her husband, Zac, for a conversation about marriage, identity, spiritual warfare, counseling, parenting, and the core lies that quietly shape our lives.

They also talk about Zac's own journey through depression and burnout, how performance died in him through suffering, and why that freedom changed everything. Together, they reflect on how lies form under the surface, how healing takes real work, and why The Lie You Don’t Know You Believe matters so much.

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