“...the Bible is from God, and God exists outside of time. When we enter into the Bible, we are entering into the life of God, and this enables us to make the past and future of the Bible our present, to read ourselves into its stories and see our life through its pages…”

- Michael Niebauer, Four Mountains

This is one of my favourite kinds of conversations; a chat about the Bible with a wise & gifted person who has spent intentional time viewing it from an angle I’m unfamiliar with. Michael was generous with his time & perspective, and we’re the better for it. We discuss his book, Four Mountains: Encountering God In The Bible From Eden To Zion, which provides a framework for understanding the whole of scripture in a way that shows us Christ on the opening pages of the book.

This conversation is just the briefest snapshot of the book, so if you find you’ve enjoyed the chat, I’d highly encourage you to check it out.

Chapters:03:03 - Journey to the Anglican Faith05:27 - Church Planting and Ministry Focus08:36 - Theological Education and Writing Journey11:35 - Understanding Mountains in the Bible14:30 - Figural Readings and Early Christian Interpretation17:35 - Mountains as Spiritual Encounters20:38 - The Significance of Eden as a Mountain23:28 - Exploring Mount Sinai and Its Importance26:37 - Cultural Context of Mountains in Religion29:17 - Understanding Zion: A Complex Concept34:51 - The Tabernacle: Climbing the Mountain of Worship39:23 - Hierarchy in Worship: Individual vs. Corporate Experience48:17 - Mount Tabor: The Transfiguration of Jesus56:01 - Interpreting Scripture: Balancing Tradition and ExplorationKeywords:

Jolly Thoughts Podcast, Michael Niebauer, Four Mountains, Biblical Theology, Church Planting, Anglican Ministry, Encountering God, Systematic Theology, Spiritual Growth, Worship

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