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Ep. 120 - They met at a summer camp in the Carolina mountains at age 15 and 16 in 1978, then married four years later. Little did they know how ill-prepared they were for marriage and the first five years were horrific, with continuous disconnection and pain.

It took MANY years of relational suffering for the Dr. Glenn & Phyllis to finally discover tools that worked for their marriage.

They share their wisdom, expertise and hope-filled story in today's episode.

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