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Jon Askonas is a professor at The Catholic University of America and a contributor to the New Atlantis and Compact. We discuss technological change, Marshall McLuhan, why conservatism is prone to grift, Democracy, the January 6th hearings, Rene Girard, and apocalypse.
Jon Askonas:
https://twitter.com/JonAskonas
https://www.thenewatlantis.com/authors/jon-askonas
Jon’s articles mentioned:
https://compactmag.com/article/why-conservatism-failed
https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/reality-is-just-a-game-now
https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/what-happened-to-consensus-reality
https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/how-stewart-made-tucker
Mentioned in the episode:
https://hiddenforces.io/podcasts/whats-happened-to-consensus-reality-jon-askonas/
https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/the-analog-city-and-the-digital-city
https://www.dukeupress.edu/on-the-modern-cult-of-the-factish-gods
Zvi is a COVID forecaster, writer of thezvi blog, and game designer at the recently released (as of republishing) card game https://emergentstcg.com.
We discuss Magic the Gathering, chess and computability, learning curves, COVID projections, the CDC banning testing, immoral mazes, selection effects, psychological malleability, Robin Hanson and medicine, institutional incentives, egalitarianism, civilizational collapse, populism, libertarianism, and pure math.Note: the timestamps are somewhat inaccurate due to editing and intro.
0:00 MTG
19:00 chess, computability, and learning
36:30 COVID projections
49:00 CDC banning tests + immoral mazes
57:15 narrative hedging
1:14:05 selection vs. malleability
1:21:20 Robin Hanson and medicine
1:55:00 institution building
2:00:05 egalitarianism and social competition
2:13:30 were we in a golden age?
2:15:30 decivilization
2:18:50 economies of scale
3:03:00 chaos and order
3:14:05 pure math
Zvi’s Blog:
http://thezvi.wordpress.com/
Zvi on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/TheZvi
Episode with Samo Burja:
Episode with Robin Hanson:
CDC banning COVID tests:
https://www.science.org/content/article/united-states-badly-bungled-coronavirus-testing-things-may-soon-improve
Moral Mazes book:
https://www.amazon.ca/Moral-Mazes-Corporate-Managers-Updated/dp/0199729883
Simone Collins is the co-founder of pronatalist.org and co-author of the Pragmatist’s Guide series.
Find Simone:
https://twitter.com/SimoneHCollins
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FMWMFTG
https://pronatalist.org/
Mentioned in the episode:
https://wwnorton.com/books/Policy-Paradox
Timestamps:
0:00 Evolutionary Mismatch8:30 Transmaxxing13:00 The Sacred31:00 Social Justice46:00 Pronatalism1:10:30 Parasocial Relationships1:28:30 Self-Deception2:01:00 Post-Irony2:29:30 “Wokeness” as a Term2:56:00 Incels
Dwarkesh Patel is the host of The Lunar Society podcast and writes The Lunar Society newsletter.
Find Dwarkesh:
https://twitter.com/dwarkesh_sp
Mentioned in the show:
https://www.americanmoment.org/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Game_No_Lifehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Note
Timestamps:
0:00 zoomers
8:00 childhood
15:00 administrative state
25:00 prodigies
35:00 art and digitization
53:00 Economic progress
56:00 Talent
1:19:00 Curtis Yarvin
1:32:00 Podcasting
1:47:00 Effective Altruism
I’m crossposting this episode from the Moment of Zen podcast, a tech podcast hosted by Erik Torenberg, Antonio Garcia Martinez, and Dan Romero. In it I discuss ChatGPT, machine learning, pluralism, and regime politics. This was one of the most enjoyable podcast appearances for me so far.
Timestamps:
(1:00) Why is ChatGPT woke? (6:23) DAN (do anything now) (12:20) Who cares if chatGPT is a little woke?(16:00) OpenAI is just protecting themselves (23:00) Why is it so bad that chatGPT is a little woke? (27:00) Why not compete with openAI directly? (33:00) Why pluralism instead of truthism? (40:00) How can pluralism win? (42:00) Polarization is good (51:00) The arc of technology is centralization (1:12:30) Reconciling contradictions (1:21:40) Explaining The Cathedral (1:32:00) Why politics matters for tech
Roko Mijic is a rationalist, writer of the Heretical Update newsletter, and the inventor of “Roko’s Basilisk”.
Roko’s Links:
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https://twitter.com/RokoMijic
Mentioned in the episode:
https://spandrell.com/2018/01/21/leninism-and-bioleninism/
https://www.thegpttimes.com/
Timestamps:
0:00 Rationality
21:30 Signalling
42:00 Lockdowns
57:30 Selection Effects
1:09:00 Feminism and Housing
2:09:00 Crypto
2:51:00 Elite Theory
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Curtis Yarvin is the founder of Urbit, as well as the author of Unqualified Reservations and Gray Mirror:
Rob Henderson is a writer of an excellent Substack, a founding faculty of UATX, and a recent recipient of a psychology PhD. We discuss the evolution of media, the “policy left”, noblesse oblige, the Tripartite War, the meaning crisis, Eric Berne, and transactional analysis.
Timestamps:
0:00 Media12:00 Tiktok22:00 “Policy left”33:00 Elites and Status Competition52:00 Noblesse Oblige58:00 Parallel Status Hierarchies1:07:00 Tripartite War1:42:00 Meaning vs. Pleasure1:55:00 Eric Berne and Transactional Analysis2:39:00 Chaos and Order
Rob on Substack:
Twitter:
https://twitter.com/robkhenderson
Pieces Mentioned:
Malcolm Collins is the co-founder of pronatalist.org and the Collins Institute, along with his wife Simone. We discuss Cultural Evolution, Puritans, Wokeness, Psychiatry, Effective Alutrism, Pronatalism, Gene Editing, Trads, Eschatology, and Good and Evil.
Timestamps:
0:00 Western Civilization4:00 Memes21:00 Hicksite Quakers28:30 Psychiatry37:30 Fashion50:00 Effective Altruism57:00 Gene-Culture Coevolution102:00 Depopulation1:33:00 Trads1:55:00 Eschatology2:11:00 Historical Direction2:32:00 Good and Evil3:07:00 Autism3:12:00 Order and Chaos
Malcolm and Simone on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/SimoneHCollins
pronatalist.org
https://collinsinstitute.org/
Pieces mentioned:
The Pragmatist Guide Series by Simone and Malcolm Collins:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FMWMFTG?binding=kindle_edition&ref=dbs_dp_rwt_sb_pc_tukn
Samuel Hammond is the director of social policy at the Niskanen center and the author of the Second Best newsletter. We discuss religion, Peter Thiel, artificial intelligence, critical theory, industrial policy, Georgism, resource scarcity, bureaucracy, prisoner’s dilemmas, care work, and Canada.
https://secondbest.ca/
Samuel at Niskanen:
https://www.niskanencenter.org/author/samuel-hammond/
Samuel on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/hamandcheese
Samuel on AI:
Samuel on Mormons:
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