In this remarkable episode, Mary McAleese & Mary Kennedy sit with Garda Commissioner Drew Harris for a rare and powerful & deeply personal conversation. As he prepares to step down from his role, Drew reflects on a career shaped by profound personal tragedy, public service, his reaction to a no confidence vote in him and a steady commitment to leading with courage and conviction. From growing up during The Troubles in Northern Ireland to leading An Garda Síochána through complex reforms and challenges, his story is one of resilience, integrity, and unwavering duty. With moving candour, he shares how his father’s murder shaped his worldview, the philosophy that has guided his leadership, and the toll — and fulfilment — of a life lived in service.

In this episode, we discuss:

• His childhood in Belfast and Lisburn and the early influence of his father’s policing career.
• The trauma of his father’s assassination by the IRA and the impact it had on his life and career.
• How he found the strength to stay in policing and lead without bitterness.
• His move from the PSNI to becoming the first Garda Commissioner from outside the force.
• The sweeping reforms he implemented across Garda Síochána, from technology to welfare.
• Building trust within communities and strengthening international policing cooperation.
• The rise of far-right extremism and public disorder — and how the force is responding.
• His reaction to the historic vote of no confidence and why he chose not to resign.
• What leadership under pressure really means, and what he hopes his legacy will be.

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