We're joined by David Simon Assistant Dean for Graduate Education, Senior Lecturer in Global Affairs and Director of the Genocide Studies Program at Yale University. Simon explains that what's going on in Gaza is not a genocide and offers analysis as to why the charge has become ubiquitous. Plus, RFK Jr's new vice president once, apparently, was married to some rich guy. It's hard to know how important that part of her bio is. And Mike offers some anguished thoughts about the fighting and the famine in Gaza.

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