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In this episode, we discuss how to identify, invite and recruit beta users for your product. Rick uses one of his ventures as an example, and Tyler helps him work through structuring a beta program for his software-enabled service idea. While we worked through a specific situation, the general concept applies often. Here’s the framework that emerged:
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Rick: So specifically with my health insurance app, I actually didn't expect to be where I am today, I'm ahead of schedule. I now have everything I need to actually launch a beta product. So I was anticipating having this be more of a hypothetical conversation, but I will actually have ... I can guarantee a product in the next couple of weeks that people can sign up for as beta users. So what I want to get out of this conversation is I want to brainstorm some ways to gain beta users for this product. I don't just want anyone on the internet to sign up. Because this is a health insurance thing, they need to be in Utah, because that's where I'm licensed. They need to be consumers of individual health insurance. So it's a very narrow focus. So anyway, it's not like I can just go post this on Google Ads or go invite all my best friends, because most of my best friends don't live in Utah. So it's difficult. So I want to brainstorm some ways to identify, invite, and recruit them. Recruit would mean them actually agreeing to the beta program. The second is once they've agreed to participate in the beta program, keeping them active and engaged, whether that's with incentives or with just guilt. That's what I want to talk about. I can add some context ... I guess any clarifying questions about what I want to get out of this?
Tyler: Yeah, well, it sounds ... I mean, getting a beta user, a beta tester is probably not radically different from getting a customer, but the goals are a little different. The goal is to learn instead of to make money, and the type of person you're looking for is someone on the very, very cutting edge of the adoption curve. But like a lot of concepts, this is going to be a specific type of marketing we're talking about here, I guess.
Rick: Exactly. I envision these people ... I want these people to be evangelists of the community. I want them to care about the problem I'm solving as much as I do. And they will get free access. I don't know exactly what the value of that is yet, but hopefully they'll help me figure it out. But I think that the right beta user for this particular product, which I'll go into, is someone who cares deeply about the problem that exists today that the app promises to solve eventually.
Tyler: Cool. So let's dive into ... we can talk generally about how to get beta users, but I think it's helpful to know what product we're actually trying to get. You said earlier there's three things you're doing. One is a thing with Sable, your wife. One is a GroupCurrent thing. But that's not what we're talking about here. You have a specific healthcare, health insurance type of product. Can you talk about what that is?
Rick: Yeah. So on the last episode, I was a little bit hesitant to talk about it because it is in the same realm of health insurance as my previous company, PeopleKeep. I do have a restriction on where I can play. I was kind of put on the spot on the podcast and I didn't feel comfortable talking about it without thinking about it more. So having thought about it, there is no issue. This is non-competitive. Not even close. I feel comfortable talking about it. So I'll kind of give you the general premise. Maybe I can work from the problem that I'm focused on and then work down to how I think the MVP will attempt to solve that. Does that work?
Tyler: Yeah, yeah.
The problem to solve
Rick: Okay, so there's a huge problem out there in that people who buy individual health insurance largely don't get any service in exchange for the commission that they get taken out of their premium. So every time you pay a health insurance premium, whether it's a group policy through y...
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In this episode, we discuss how to identify, invite and recruit beta users for your product. Rick uses one of his ventures as an example, and Tyler helps him work through structuring a beta program for his software-enabled service idea. While we worked through a specific situation, the general concept applies often. Here’s the framework that emerged:
Takeaways:
Context
Rick: So specifically with my health insurance app, I actually didn't expect to be where I am today, I'm ahead of schedule. I now have everything I need to actually launch a beta product. So I was anticipating having this be more of a hypothetical conversation, but I will actually have ... I can guarantee a product in the next couple of weeks that people can sign up for as beta users. So what I want to get out of this conversation is I want to brainstorm some ways to gain beta users for this product. I don't just want anyone on the internet to sign up. Because this is a health insurance thing, they need to be in Utah, because that's where I'm licensed. They need to be consumers of individual health insurance. So it's a very narrow focus. So anyway, it's not like I can just go post this on Google Ads or go invite all my best friends, because most of my best friends don't live in Utah. So it's difficult. So I want to brainstorm some ways to identify, invite, and recruit them. Recruit would mean them actually agreeing to the beta program. The second is once they've agreed to participate in the beta program, keeping them active and engaged, whether that's with incentives or with just guilt. That's what I want to talk about. I can add some context ... I guess any clarifying questions about what I want to get out of this?
Tyler: Yeah, well, it sounds ... I mean, getting a beta user, a beta tester is probably not radically different from getting a customer, but the goals are a little different. The goal is to learn instead of to make money, and the type of person you're looking for is someone on the very, very cutting edge of the adoption curve. But like a lot of concepts, this is going to be a specific type of marketing we're talking about here, I guess.
Rick: Exactly. I envision these people ... I want these people to be evangelists of the community. I want them to care about the problem I'm solving as much as I do. And they will get free access. I don't know exactly what the value of that is yet, but hopefully they'll help me figure it out. But I think that the right beta user for this particular product, which I'll go into, is someone who cares deeply about the problem that exists today that the app promises to solve eventually.
Tyler: Cool. So let's dive into ... we can talk generally about how to get beta users, but I think it's helpful to know what product we're actually trying to get. You said earlier there's three things you're doing. One is a thing with Sable, your wife. One is a GroupCurrent thing. But that's not what we're talking about here. You have a specific healthcare, health insurance type of product. Can you talk about what that is?
Rick: Yeah. So on the last episode, I was a little bit hesitant to talk about it because it is in the same realm of health insurance as my previous company, PeopleKeep. I do have a restriction on where I can play. I was kind of put on the spot on the podcast and I didn't feel comfortable talking about it without thinking about it more. So having thought about it, there is no issue. This is non-competitive. Not even close. I feel comfortable talking about it. So I'll kind of give you the general premise. Maybe I can work from the problem that I'm focused on and then work down to how I think the MVP will attempt to solve that. Does that work?
Tyler: Yeah, yeah.
The problem to solve
Rick: Okay, so there's a huge problem out there in that people who buy individual health insurance largely don't get any service in exchange for the commission that they get taken out of their premium. So every time you pay a health insurance premium, whether it's a group policy through y...
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