In this episode:

• Jon and Justin open up about the challenges of bootstrapping "on the side." 
• How things have gotten harder (in some ways) now that we have customers.
• Jon is finding it hard to juggle his day job, and getting time to build the "big features."
• Justin flip-flips back and forth about investment. Would investors and advisors meddle too much?
• We also discuss the Spotify rumors: buying Gimlet for $200 - $230 million?
• Also, a theory about why Apple should have made Gimlet an offer.

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Show notes:

• Podnews on the Spotify deal
• Nicholas Quah on the Spotify deal
• National Geographic: Valley of the Boom
• Apple is investing big in content: they've signed deals with Spielberg, Oprah, Jennifer Anniston. 

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