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This episode, Tom interviews Julia Freeland Fisher, the Director of Education at the Clayton Christensen Institute. For a decade, since Clay Christensen and Michael Horn published Disrupting Class: How Disruptive Innovation Will Change the Way the World Learns, the team at the Clayton Christensen Institute has been known as a leader in blended and personalized learning — as well as the idea of disruptive innovation.

In Julia's new book, Who You Know: Unlocking Innovations That Expand Students' Networks, she explores the importance of social capital. She emphasizes the idea that who you know matters greatly in terms of a child's success in the future.

In this podcast, Julia shares information about her new book and describes innovative approaches to helping young people develop social networks. She also speaks about the process of writing the book as well as her journey that got her to this point.

"Children's networks — their reservoir of social capital and ability to bank on that capital for support, advice, or opportunities down the line — remains largely determined by random luck: the luck of where children are born, whom their parents know, and whom they happen to end up sitting next to in class." — Julia Freeland Fisher (Who You Know: Unlocking Innovations That Expand Students' Networks)

Key Takeaways:

[:19] About today's topic and guest.

[1:19] Tom welcomes Julia to the podcast.

[1:40] About Julia's early education.

[3:49] Where Julia's interest in Latin studies came from.

[5:07] Why Julia went to law school.

[6:12] Where Julia's interest in education came from.

[7:55] What led Julia to the Clayton Christensen Institute.

[9:07] Julia gives a brief explanation on what disruptive innovation is.

[10:32] How did the leading voice for personalized and blended learning decide to study social capital?

[13:03] What Tom was surprised to learn from Julia's book, Who You Know.

[14:54] Tom reads a quote from Who You Know that sums up the equity issue and Julia explains it more thoroughly.

[16:02] Innovations Julia has seen that have helped to expand students' networks.

[18:02] Julia's thoughts on virtual mentoring networks.

[20:10] About the iNACOL Book Party with Lydia, Tom, and Julia.

[20:35] Does Julia think virtual reality is going to play a role in introducing young people to career opportunities?

[21:56] Julia explains online connecting offline.

[23:10] Julia explains integrated student services.

[25:19] How do we make social capital more important? How do we create time in busy, secondary schedules for things like mentorships and work-based learning?

[27:26] Julia describes key differences between a traditional high school and one that is aiming toward building social capital.

[33:54] About Julia's experience co-authoring with her husband.

[35:19] How, when and where did Julia write?

[36:15] What is Julia's next book on?

[37:29] What has been humbling for Julia while she has been giving talks on the book?

Mentioned in This Episode:

Julia Freeland Fisher's LinkedIn

Clayton Christensen Institute

Disrupting Class: How Disruptive Innovation Will Change the Way the World Learns,

by Clayton Christensen, Curtis W. Johnson, and Michael B. Horn

Who You Know: Unlocking Innovations That Expand Students' Networks,

by Julia Freeland Fisher and Daniel Fisher

Better Together: How to Leverage School Networks For Smarter Personalized and Project Based Learning, by Tom Vander Ark and Lydia Dobyns

NewSchools Venture Fund

Community Share

ImBlaze

LRNG.org

Del Lago Academy

One Stone

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Today, Tom interviews thought leader, author, and Apple Executive, John Couch. For 16 years, John served as Apple's Vice President of Education. He launched some great programs and saw a lot of cool stuff but was left a bit disappointed by the reductive and ineffective uses of technology.

In his new book, Rewiring Education, he urges a full rewiring of education. It is a call-to-action to parents and teachers to help them realize that the technology that's now in place can empower both teachers and the students if deployed correctly. He believes the classroom needs to be completely rewired to become more relevant, creative, collaborative, and challenging.

In this conversation with Tom, John explains what makes him enthusiastic about project-based learning and the future of learning technology, why design is such an important concept, what challenge-based learning is and why it is also important, and his take on technology today and how it can best be used in schools. John also talks about some of the key points from his book, Rewiring Education, how teaching is all about helping students recognize their natural talents, and moving from being a conveyor of information to a facilitator of information.

Key Takeaways:

[:20] About some upcoming changes to the Getting Smart podcast in the next couple of weeks.

[1:05] About this week's guest, John Couch.

[1:41] How John originally got interested in computers.

[4:07] What was the impetus behind John's most recent book, Rewiring Education?

[6:03] John explains the title of his book, Rewiring Education.

[7:04] Why design is an important concept.

[9:58] About the chart in chapter 5 that illustrates the difference between education and learning, and where to find John's other charts and slides for Rewiring Education.

[11:34] John describes what challenge-based learning is, gives some examples, and explains why it's so important.

[16:50] About the great team of people John has worked with.

[17:47] John's take on coding.

[19:55] What's the new role of the teacher John described in his book.

[21:57] John talks about how teaching is helping students recognize their natural talents and moving from being a conveyor of information to a facilitator of information.

[23:50] John's current take on technology and how it can best be used in schools today.

[26:18] John answers Tom's lightning round questions about new technology!

[32:57] Where to find John and his work online.

Mentioned in This Episode:

Rewiring Education: How Technology Can Unlock Every Student's Potential, by John Couch and Jason Towne

Compiler Construction: Theory and Practice, by John Couch and William A. Barrett

RewiringEducation.com

DigitalPromise.org

CBL.DigitalPromise.org

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Today, Tom talks with Pam Moran, who just wrapped up 32 years with Albemarle County Public Schools as she transitions into a leadership role at the Virginia School Consortium for Learning.

Starting as a science teacher and concluding with a dozen years as superintendent, Pam has quietly become one of America's leading educators because the work she leads is so compelling. With two of her Albemarle colleagues, Moran just published a book of lessons learned called, Timeless Learning: How Imagination, Observation, and Zero-based Thinking Change Schools.

In this interview, Tom talks to Pam about the process of writing her book with her co-authors Ira and Chad, their collective philosophy on education, and the contents of the book. Pam also talks about why she originally wanted to become a teacher, some of her key focuses in education, and her thoughts on multi-age spaces and the ways in which schools can help ready students for adulthood.

Key Takeaways:

[:15] About the guest today, Pam Moran.

[:52] Tom welcomes Pam to the podcast and she describes her passion for her career.

[3:40] When did Pam decide she wanted to be a teacher?

[5:55] When and why Pam decided to write her book, Timeless Learning with co-authors.

[15:00] Pam talks about one of her key focuses: seeing children more clearly.

[17:28] About Pam's and her co-authors' collective philosophy.

[25:20] Pam talks about multi-age spaces and the benefits of children learning in these spaces.

[31:10] About an initiative Pam is working on, and one of the major ways schools can help ready students for college and career.

[36:06] If Pam were going to write a headline for each of her co-authors, what would they be?

[38:23] How did Pam and her co-authors write the book?

[41:59] Why Pam and co-authors decided to include the "take action" section at the end of each chapter.

[45:03] Pam reflects on and gives her thoughts on Better Together.

Mentioned in This Episode:

Albemarle County Public Schools

Timeless Learning: How Imagination, Observation, and Zero-based Thinking Change Schools,

by Ira David Socol, Pam Moran, and Chad Ratliff

Virginia School Consortium for Learning

MakerEd.org

Better Together: How to Leverage School Networks For Smarter Personalized and Project Based Learning, by Tom Vander Ark and Lydia Dobyns

Wiley Publications

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Today, Tom speaks with Tim Stuart. Tim is an international educator who has lived in France and has taught in Turkey and Switzerland. After being the principal of a New Mexico school serving Native Americans, Tim was one of the first to earn a Ph.D. as a Gates Millenium Scholar. As Head of School in Jakarta, he was introduced to professional learning communities by Rick Dufour. Since then, Tim has used professional learning communities to create exemplary schools in Singapore and Ethiopia. And in Tim's first book for Solution Tree, Global Perspectives, he outlines the use of PLCs in International Schools.

In this podcast, Tim talks to Tom about his journey, why he thinks professional learning communities (PLC) 2.0 is a big deal, the three shifts in personalized learning schools must make, the vision he has for schools around the world, and the main takeaways from his books on personalized learning and PLCs. Tim also gives his insight on turning the four critical PLC questions around and inviting students to become active agents of their own learning.

Key Takeaways:

[:16] About the guest for today, Tim Stuart.

[1:28] Tom welcomes Tim to the podcast.

[2:40] About Tim's experience as one of the first to earn a Ph.D. as a Gates Millenium Scholar.

[3:08] What kicked off Tim's leadership career as an international educator?

[4:00] Tim's experience as an international educator before working in Jakarta.

[4:26] About Tim's introduction to the professional learning community concept.

[5:46] Why Tim decided to visit schools around the world.

[8:00] How visiting schools supercharged Tim's PLCs.

[8:34] The thesis of Tim's (and colleagues') book, Global Perspectives.

[9:56] Tom summarizes the four professional learning communities (PLC) questions.

[10:28] Tim's thoughts on the four PLC questions.

[11:15] The origin of Tim's idea to rework the PLC framework to include students.

[15:10] About Tim's other recently published book: Personalized Learning in a PLC at Work, and how he connected with the other authors of the book.

[18:10] Tim explains how PLC and RTI come together as critical allies in student learning.

[20:54] Tim speaks about the three shifts in personalized learning schools must make.

[27:42] How highly effective learning progressive schools are schools that are highly collaborative.

[29:20] Tom reads the thesis summary from Personalized Learning in a PLC at Work.

[29:48] About Tim's first year at the school in Ethiopia and the work he's doing there.

[33:44] Is it still the vision of the International Community School of Addis Ababa to be the best in (and for) Africa?

Mentioned in This Episode:

Global Perspectives: Professional Learning Communities at WorkTM in International Schools (Fully Institutionalize Behaviors Consistent with PLC Expectations), by Tim Stuart and colleagues

Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation

Jakarta International School

Singapore American School

The Global Achievement Gap: Why Even Our Best Schools Don't Teach the New Survival Skills Our Children Need — and What We Can Do About It, by Tony Wagner

The MET School

High Tech High

Personalized Learning in a PLC at Work™: Student Agency Through the Four Critical Questions (Develop Innovative PLC- and RTI-Based Personalized Learning), by Tim Stuart, Sascha Heckmann, Mike Mattos, and Austin Buffum

USAID

Peace Corps

Save the Children

Food for the Hungry

International Community School of Addis Ababa

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Today, Tom has a conversation with David Michael Slater. David is a teacher at Pine Middle School in Reno — he's also an author of dozens of children's books and has been writing and teaching for over 20 years.

David believes that having another passion beyond the classroom is helpful for a teacher. In his first nonfiction work, Slater enumerates many of the bad, obsolete, and corrupted ideas that have become part of the basic operating system in American elementary and secondary education. The book is called, We're Doing It Wrong: 25 Ideas in Education That Just Don't Work—And How to Fix Them. In pithy, short chapters Slater exposes some bad assumptions and makes the case for how good ideas have gone bad.

Join David and Tom today as they go through several chapters of his book and discuss issues such as age-based education, why teachers are leaving the field, regarding the student as the client, helicopter parents and absent parents, the guidance gap, the writing crisis, and more.

Key Takeaways:

[:16] About today's episode with David Slater.

[1:11] David's educational background.

[4:35] When did David start his writing career? And why?

[5:40] How and when David writes.

[6:14] Does David write by-hand or on the computer?

[6:26] The background on his latest nonfiction book, We're Doing It Wrong.

[8:05] Why is age-based education a problem?

[9:13] One of the reasons why David wrote this book, and one of the main reasons why teachers are leaving the field.

[10:41] David's take on chapter 6 of his book around student-centered learning.

[12:19] What's wrong with the metaphor: the student is the client.

[13:44] David's take on "helicopter parents".

[15:05] David's thoughts on absent parents.

[16:25] David and Tom discuss the guidance gap.

[17:40] David talks about the immense issue that is the writing crisis, and how David combats this within the school where he teaches.

[23:43] David's concerns about automated writing feedback systems.

[25:29] David shares some of the other topics and issues in his book, We're Doing It Wrong.

[27:30] What David's next book is on.

[28:35] What David is currently teaching at Pine Middle School and his other endeavor: We're Doing It Wrong website and podcast.

Mentioned in This Episode:

Pine Middle School

We're Doing It Wrong: 25 Ideas in Education That Just Don't Work—And How to Fix Them,

by David Michael Slater

David Michael Slater's Amazon Book Page

Health and Science School

Smart Parents: Parenting for Powerful Learning, by Tom Vander Ark, Bonnie Lathram,

and Carri Schneider

We're Doing It Wrong Website & Podcast

For More on Reimagining K-12:

Listen to: Season 3, Episode 18 "What School Could Be: Ted Dintersmith on Powerful Learning".

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In today's episode, Tom interviews Ryan Craig. Ryan is an attorney, an entrepreneur, and a venture investor — he's also a leading critic of higher education. When he sees half of the people attending post-secondary failing to earn degrees (and many of them leaving with piles of debt) he sees an emergency. As he would say, "the patient is bleeding out on the table."

Ryan is the co-founder of University Ventures, an organization that is reimagining the future of higher education and creating new pathways from education to employment. They're working to make higher education more affordable, helping employers think differently about how and where they discover talent, and pioneering entirely new approaches to learning. His new book, A New U: Faster + Cheaper Alternatives to College, also outlines a radically different post-secondary landscape — one where everyone has access to free, or at least debt-free, training for a high-paying first job.

Tom and Ryan dive into discussions about his book, A New U; his organization, University Ventures; and why he has set his focus on post-secondary affordability and employability. Ryan also describes the last-mile training programs from UV and how they differ from higher ed courses; gives his 60-second solutions to several big problems in education today; and lets us know if he thinks online learning, microcredentials, and artificial intelligence in education are overrated or underrated.

Recently, Tom went to Europe to visit the founders of MyMachine. MyMachine is a 10-year-old nonprofit in Belgium that helps brings dreams to life by recruiting college design students and high school prototypers to help bring to life the dreams of elementary students.

While visiting MyMachine, Tom asked the three co-founders — Jan Despiegelaere, Piet Grymonprez, and Filip Meuris — about the origin story of MyMachine and how they've scaled up to help over half a million students worldwide gain creativity, entrepreneurship, and agency. Tom and the founders also discuss some of their favorite, standout answers to, "If we can build a dream machine for you, what would that machine do?"; the steps and educational levels involved in the process; the growth they hope to see for MyMachine in the educational system; and all about the skill benefits students gain from MyMachine.

Key Takeaways:

[:14] About today's podcast and guest.

[1:20] The MyMachine founders introduce themselves.

[1:44] Co-founder Jan describes the location of MyMachine.

[3:21] Do the co-founders feel that the education system is not keeping up with the thriving economy in Europe?

[4:25] Filip tells the story of the origin of MyMachine.

[6:30] When did Piet hear about this idea and come to think about it as an organization?

[8:25] What is the prompt MyMachine gives to elementary students in the classroom?

[9:30] Some of the answers from elementary students and the values and agency it builds for them.

[12:10] One of the MyMachine answers that stood out most for Jan.

[13:50] One of Filip's favorite MyMachine ideas.

[15:33] Why are three groups of students (elementary, secondary, and higher ed) involved in the MyMachine process?

[18:13] The skill benefits that the students gain from MyMachine.

[21:07] What benefits do Jan's corporate and philanthropic partners see in the program? Why do they support MyMachine?

[23:11] What does success look like to the founders? How will the world be better 5-10 years from now with the growth and success of MyMachine?

[25:10] Does Jan see MyMachine making schools better and different in the future?

[26:48] Filip's thoughts on what success looks like a few years from now.

Mentioned in This Episode:

MyMachine-global.org

"Teaching Students How to Bring Their Dreams to Life" (Piet's blog post on GettingSmart.com)

For More on Design Thinking, Check Out:

S3:E35 "What's Up With All the Design-Focused Schools?" for a review on design-focused schools and S3:E32 "Michael Fullan Sees Global Momentum for Deep Learning" to learn why Michael Fullan is so optimistic that deeper learning is a global trend.

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This week, Tom Vander Ark speaks with Lydia Dobyns, CEO of New Tech Network, to talk about their new book, Better Together: How to Leverage School Networks for Smarter Personalized and Project-Based Learning. Tom and Lydia are excited about the potential of personalized and project-based learning but worry about the degree of difficulty for teachers. Their book suggests that schools working together in formal (or informal) networks to share models, tools, and professional learning to achieve their goals.

In this episode, Tom and Lydia discuss and share their ideas on a variety of topics from their book, Better Together; talk about some of their favorite school districts that use networks; and how the use of networks is transforming schools.

Listen in to learn more about their work, ideas, and their new book, Better Together!

Key Takeaways:

[:14] About today's podcast and guest.

[1:11] About Tom and Lydia's early careers and changes in the industry from technology.

[5:20] When Tom and Lydia started thinking about networks and education.

[7:06] How and when Lydia found out about New Tech Network.

[9:43] About Tom and Lydia's book, Better Together.

[10:36] Tom and Lydia's opinions on the Platform Revolution.

[18:04] Lydia describes what a typical New Tech looks like it and how it works.

[21:50] Lydia's favorite team-taught courses.

[23:13] What it's like to teach at New Tech, how teachers are connected, and how learning is promoted across the network.

[26:45] The networks Lydia has collaborated with over the last several years.

[29:25] Mentionable charter management organizations.

[30:59] Mentionable school districts that operate like networks.

[32:10] Districts that use a portfolio strategy and use multiple networks.

[32:49] What makes a good district and the next big learning for district leaders.

[36:00] Lydia summarizes how leading in a network is different.

[38:38] Tom and Lydia summarize their book, Better Together.

Mentioned in This Episode:

New Tech Network

Better Together: How to Leverage School Networks For Smarter Personalized and Project Based Learning, by Tom Vander Ark and Lydia Dobyns

High Tech High

New Tech High

New Tech Network

Hewlett

Big Picture Learning

EL Education

New Visions for Public Schools

Brooklyn Lab School

Kettle Moraine School District

Denver Public Schools

DSST Public Schools

STRIVE Preparatory Schools

Rocky Mountain Prep

Beacon Network Schools

League of Innovative Schools

Remake Learning

Avonworth School District

El Paso Independent School District

To Learn More:

Check out GettingSmart.com/BetterTogether and NewTechNetwork.org for a ton of great blogs and information about working in a network.

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Over the next year, The Getting Smart team will be pulling together workshops to explore the power of school networks. Email Taylor@GettingSmart.com or click on the Services tab on GettingSmart.com to learn more.

This episode is the second in the two-part series from Getting Smart's time spent at SXSW EDU. Getting Smart was a media partner at the conference and while there got to meet and interview thought leaders, change makers, and even a few students. If you haven't listened to part one yet, you can find it on GettingSmart.com.

Emily Liebtag interviews SXSW EDU attendees on why they attended the conference and what their predictions are about the future of work and learning. This episode she interviews Stephen Turnipseed, Executive VP and Chief strategy officer at Pitsco; Dr. Elaine Metcalf, Principal of Summit Technology Academy; and Saro Mohammed, partner at the Learning Accelerator. They discuss blended learning, their hopes for the future of learning, and why they love SXSW EDU. Lastly, Emily sits down with students from the MET School who share their experiences at the project-focused school. They talk about why they believe in the power of projects, the skills they think are the most valuable for graduates, and why they love the MET.

Key Takeaways:

[:33] About today's podcast and guests.

[1:28] About Stephen's Turnipseed's work and his thoughts on education becoming increasingly more connected.

[4:05] Why Dr. Elaine Metcalf loves SXSW EDU.

[4:54] What Dr. Elaine Metcalf sees as the diploma of the future.

[6:50] Saro Mohammed's educational background and role at Learning Accelerator.

[7:46] Why Saro is at SXSW EDU.

[8:50] The skills Saro sees as necessary for students to be equipped with when facing college or career.

[10:25] What skills should the diploma of the future include?

[12:04] What could shift in education to get us to Saro's ideal future classroom?

[14:15] Emily interviews student from MET and they all introduce themselves.

[15:25] What the MET is all about and why these students love it.

[17:50] What they're passionate about and investigating through their internships and projects.

[20:14] How working on projects has helped develop their agency and learn about what they're passionate about.

[22:28] What skills these students believe are going to most benefit them as a graduate.

Mentioned in This Episode:

SXSW EDU

First part of episode

Sugata Mitra on Self-Organized Learning Environments

Summit Technology Academy

The MET High School

Gabriel@ArtoftheCrane.com

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Over the next two weeks we'll be bringing you a special edition two-part episode from our time spent at SXSW EDU. Getting Smart was a media partner at the conference and while there, we got to meet and interview thought leaders, change makers, and even a few students. These episodes come just in time to help inspire and encourage you to submit your proposal to present at next year's conference. Check out SXSW's Panel Picker site and get your submission(s) in before July 20th!

During the episode, you'll hear interviews with SXSW EDU attendees on why they attended the conference and what their predictions are about the future of work and learning. First, we speak with Connie Lie, a teacher, and founder of Project Invent — a program working to bring more invention programs and high-quality projects to high school students. Then, you'll hear from Jessica Millstone, Director of Engagement at BrainPop. Jessica shares why she loves SXSW EDU and what she believes the future of learning should look like. During the episode, Caroline on our team speaks with Tessa Simmons, a high school senior who attended and spoke at SXSW. Tessa shares how her education has been influenced by learning that happens outside of school hours and how having autonomy in her learning is important to her education. Next up, an interview with Ulcca Joshi Hanson — Associate Director of Education Reimagined — who speaks about schools she has worked with and the future of education. Lastly, we wrap up with a quick interview with Michael Crawford, Director of Strategy and Partnership at Real World Scholars, who shares his thoughts on why the future of learning will be connected.

Stay tuned for part two of this episode next week, to hear more featured voices from SXSW EDU!

Key Takeaways:

[:17] About today's podcast and guests.

[1:35] Connie Lie introduces herself and speaks about her work background.

[2:19] About Connie's program, Project Invent, that helps bring real, authentic learning opportunities to students.

[3:30] Are students managing projects on their own at Project Invent?

[5:36] Did Project Invent's genesis come about from a high-quality learning experience of Connie's?

[7:46] Why is it hard to do project-based learning well? How did Connie overcome these challenges?

[10:03] Connie's tips for those getting started in a similar field as herself.

[11:43] Jessica Millstone introduces herself and explains what she does.

[12:18] Why Jessica is at SXSW EDU and why she loves it.

[13:50] About the well-designed sessions and meet-ups at SXSW EDU.

[15:51] The future of learning for students bringing strong connections even with the increasingly technological social media world.

[19:02] What Jessica thinks is on the horizon for learning.

[22:02] Tessa Simmons introduces herself and talks about the school she attends — One Stone.

[23:54] How Tessa's education has been influenced outside the classroom, at One Stone.

[25:26] About the student leadership at One Stone. How getting involved and having a say at the school has helped shape Tessa's learning.

[26:45] How preparing material for the board of directors at One Stone has helped Tessa prepare for her future.

[28:29] How has failure propelled Tessa forward?

[30:11] Where Tessa has been able to take risks in her education at One Stone.

[31:07] What is Tessa's hope for the future of learning and students just going into high school?

[33:07] When Ulcca Joshi Hanson thinks about the future of education, what does she see?

[34:30] Ulcca talks about Education Reimagined and explains what they do.

[37:43] An example of a school Ulcca is working with that is competency-based learning, student agency, personalized, social and contextualized learning.

[39:33] Ulcca's experiences growing up and how that helped lay down the path to her future.

[43:14] Michael Crawford introduces himself and explains his work at Real World Scholars.

[45:10] What does Michael see for the future of learning?

[46:01] Would Michael describe a future grad of Real World Scholars as a 'connected individual?'

Mentioned in This Episode:

SXSW EDU

Project Invent

BrainPOP

Education Reimagined

Real World Scholars

One Stone

The MET High School

Iowa BIG

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