Welcome back to Hopecore, your Friday dose of joy, chaos, and standards so high - they built civilization. This week, Liz is joined by feminist scientist and Eve author Cat Bohannon, to unpack why getting the ick might actually be the most important evolutionary trait, how human sexuality fits into the animal kingdom, and if size really matters. From mallard mating routines to the understudied science behind the female body, we’re channeling our inner Darwin with hot, primal takes. If evolution were a man, after this episode, he’d need therapy.

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Liz Plank is an award-winning journalist, filmmaker, international bestselling author, and producer of several critically acclaimed digital series at Vox Media and NBC News. She currently hosts Boy Problems, a podcast that tackles love, masculinity, dating disasters, and life’s biggest questions.