Going Rogue

Six months of pre-production. Six months of principal photography.

Six weeks in the edit.

Quantum of Solace has long been seen as a victim of the Writers Strike. But the strike was just one of many, many roadblocks that the film blissfully drove straight through.

Striking Out is a new series of Going Rogue about the 07/08 Writers Guild of America strike, exploring the issues of the strike by looking at the films and TV shows affected by it. 

CONTENT WARNING: In 2023 Paul Haggis lost a civil court case and was ordered to pay $7.5million to a woman who accused him of assault. Four other woman testified during the court case. Haggis denies the accusations.

CLIPS USED:

Quantum of Solace (2008)

Casino Royale (2006)

Marc Forster, “Quantum of Solace”: Meet the Filmmaker

Roberto Schafer - Cinematographer (Team Deakins Podcast)

Quantum of Solace: Behind the Scenes (SPE)

Naomi Donne Blog (SPE)

Quantum of Solace: THR Behind the Scenes

Empire Podcast #484 - Daniel Craig, Rami Malek

MUSIC:

“Floating Cities”, “Leaving Home”, “Enter The Maze”, “Hard Boiled”, “I knew A Guy”, “Marty Gots A Plan”, “Crypto”, “Hiding Your Reality”, “Prelude and Action”, “Morgana Rides”, “Bleeping Demo”, “Hitman”, “Groove Grove”, “Industrial Cinematic”, “Scissors”, “Ambiment” * “Lost Frontier”

Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) 

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“Bossy Boots" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

In 2005, Daniel Craig was announced as the new James Bond. On the same day, producer Michael G Wilson mentioned that work had already started on Craig's second Bond film.

That film would eventually become Quantum of Solace. And it would be remembered less as a film and more as a casualty of the 2007 Writers Strike.  But how much did the strike really affect Quantum of Solace?

Striking Out is a new series of Going Rogue about the 07/08 Writers Guild of America strike, exploring the issues of the strike by looking at the films and TV shows affected by it. 

CONTENT WARNING:

In 2023 Paul Haggis lost a civil court case and was ordered to pay $7.5million to a woman who accused him of assault. Four other woman testified during the court case. Haggis denies the accusations.

CLIPS USED:

Casino Royale (2006)

Quantum of Solace (2008)

Marc Forster, “Quantum of Solace”: Meet the Filmmaker

Roberto Schafer - Cinematographer (Team Deakins Podcast)

WSC Show #109 - Interview With Patric Verrone (Part 1)

New James Bond

Rewriting Collective Insights: Phil Lord at TEDxCoconut Grove

Quantum of Solace: THR Behind the Scenes

MUSIC

“Industrial Cinematic”, “Hiding Your Reality”, “Chill Wave”, “Dirt Rhodes”, “FIX HERE”, “Unanswered Questions”, “Rollin At 5”, “Thinking Music”, “Enter the Maze”, “Crypto”, “Clash Defiant”, “Groove Grove”, “Enter The Maze”, “Prelude And Action”, “Hitman”, “Bicycle”, “Screen Saver”, “Nonstop”, “Floating Cities”, “Leaving Home”, “Satiate Percussion”, “Magic Forest”, “Tenebrous Brothers Carnival - Intermission” & “Bleeping Demo” 

Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

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“Bossy Boots" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

In 2007, The Writers Guild of America went on strike. In 2023, they might do it again.

So this is season three of Going Rogue: Striking Out.

Striking Out starts on May 7th, with weekly episodes.

This is basically the same promo as the one at the end of Going Solo but now it has a date attached.

For smart threads and dumb memes, follow the show on twitter @GoingRogue_Pod

For a daily update on the various ways Tansy is losing her mind thanks to pop culture and capitalism, follow @TansyClipboard

MUSIC:

"Bleeping Demo" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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Bossy Boots by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

Crank That Soulja Boy - Soulja Boy

On a dark summer night on the set of American Graffiti, Ron Howard asked George Lucas what film he wanted to do next. Lucas was shy with details, but he said it was sort of a Buck Rogers film with Stanley Kubrick special effects, but really, really fast.

Both Howard and Lucas would go onto wildly successful directorial careers, but while George Lucas was stuck in a galaxy far far away, Howard became a journeyman, directing all styles, genres and budgets. When Solo: A Star Wars Story needed a steady pair of hands to take over and get the now director-less film onto screens in just 11 months, Howard was one of the few directors with the experience, technical skill and clout to pull it off.

Howard’s version of Solo was always going to be a compromise. But by picture lock, very little of anyone’s vision remained. Join us for the breakneck conclusion of Going Solo.

You can follow the show on Twitter @goingrogue_pod or, if you want a lot of tweets about Puss In Boots: The Last Wish, you can follow Tansy @tansyclipboard

CLIPS:

Ron Howard Gets A New ‘Solo’ Trailer for May the 4th - The Late Show With Stephen Colbert

Sunday Sit-down with Willie Geist - Ron Howard

Arrested Development

How Did Ron Howard Direct Solo: A Star Wars Story after joining the project so late? (via Entertainment.ie)

The Star Wars Show: Solo Writers Lawrence and Jonathon Kasdan on Scripting Chewbacca’s Lines and More

Peter Serafinowicz on Collider Live

Solo: A Star Wars Story

Solo: A Star Wars Story Deleted Scenes

Happy Sad Confused: Ron Howard Vol. II

MUSIC:

“Whiskey On The Mississippi”, “Adventures in Adventureland”, “Hot Pursuit”, “Smoking Gun”, “Bicycle”, “Industrial Cinematic”, “Anamalie”, “Lost Time”, “Nonstop”, “I Can Feel It Coming”, “Simplex”, “Neo Western”, “Enter The Maze”, “Floating Cities”, “Rising”, “River of Io”, “Space Jazz”, “Groove Grove”, “Crypto”, “Ever Mindful”, “Hiding Your Reality”, “Man Down”, “Night Vigil”, “Cut Trance”, “Chill Wave”, “Bleeping Demo”

Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License

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"Quiescent In Time" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

"Jake Lonergan" by Harry Gregson-Williams (Cowboys and Aliens)

“Willow’s Theme” by James Horner (Willow)

Cat noises provided by Sabrina

Cameras rolled on Solo: A Star Wars Story in early 2017. For six-ish months, Phil Lord and Chris Miller directed their version of the film - a highly stylised, ambitious take on Han Solo’s backstory. But in putting their version to film, Lord and Miller used the filmmaking process they’d honed over decades of work together - improvising, trying things out and throwing things away in pursuit of the best story. 

But that process might not have been the best one for Solo. At home in LA, Lawrence Kasdan was watching the dailies. And he wasn’t happy with what he saw.

Kathleen Kennedy, producer of Solo and President of Lucasfilm, had the deciding vote in what happened next.

Strap in, this is a long one mates.

CLIPS:

Rewriting Collective Insights: Phil Lord at TedXCoconut Grove

Team Deakins Podcast Episode 78: Phil Lord and Christopher Miller

Solo: A Star Wars Story 

Solo: A Star Wars Story Bonus Feature: Bradford Young

Solo: A Star Wars Story Deleted Scenes

Happy Sad Confused: Lord & Miller II

MUSIC:

“Unanswered Questions”, “Hot Pursuit”, “Bicycle”, “Neo Western”, Rollin At 5”, “Simplex”, “Space Jazz”, “Floating Cities”, “Screen Saver”, “Groove Grove”, “Bleeping Demo”, “Stay The Course”, “Oppressive Gloom”, “Mystery Sax”, “Man Down”, “Scissors”, “Martian Cowboy”, “I Can Feel It Coming”, “Crypto”, “Lost Frontier”

Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License

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"Quiescent In Time" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

"The Good Guy" by John Powell (I'm trying to make a thing where every time a director gets fired or replaced I do a bit of sad music from the film)  

In 1997, Christopher Miller lucked his way into a meeting with Disney’s TV Animation Department - and he turned them down, because he had to study for midterms. But when he finally did go to LA and meet with Disney, he brought along his best friend, Phil Lord.

Twenty years later, Lord and Miller were chosen to direct Solo: A Star Wars Story, after a meteoric rise from writers of oft-cancelled sitcoms to one of the most well regarded directing teams in Hollywood. They would not finish the film, but the marks they left on it would be deep, and unexpected, and many of them would involve Robert Altman’s McCabe and Mrs Miller.

CLIPS:

Team Deakins Podcast Episode 78: Phil Lord and Christopher Miller

Bronte Sisters Power Dolls

Rewriting Collective Insights: Phil Lord at TedXCoconut Grove

22 Jump Street (Song Pictures)

21 Jump Street Deleted Scenes

The Directors Cut Episode 52: Rogue One A Star Wars Story with Gareth Edwards and Chris Miller

Team Deakins Podcast Episode 90: Bradford Young

MUSIC:

“Cool Rock", “Dirt Rhodes", "Hot Pursuit", “Sneaky Adventure", “New Direction", “Screen Saver”, "Klockworx", “Too Cool", “Cut Trance", “Bleeping Demo", “Crowd Hammer", “Invariance", “Industrial Cinematic”, “Floating Cities", "Anamalie", “Martian Cowboy", “Slow Burn” & “Alien Restaurant"

Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License

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“Suspended Animation" & "Quiescent In Time" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

In October 2012, Lawrence Kasdan was asked if he wanted to write another Star Wars film. 

He didn't. But when he went to turn down George Lucas and Kathleen Kennedy in person, someone mentioned they also wanted to make a Han Solo movie. 

Five and a half years later, Solo: A Star Wars Story became the first ever Star Wars box office bomb. You think you know what happened, but exactly how Solo went off the rails is a much more complicated, nuanced and unhinged tale than you might have imagined. This isn't the story of a film going wrong - it's the story of one that could never have gone right. 

And it starts, and in some ways ends, with Lawrence and Jonathon Kasdan's script.

CLIPS:

On Story 1011: A Conversation With Lawrence Kasdan

Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope

Solo: A Star Wars Story

Original Star Wars Audition Tapes

Solo: A Star Wars Story Sound Bites (Lucasfilm Press Pack)

The Star Wars Show: Solo Writers Lawrence and Jonathon Kasdan on Scripting Chewbacca’s Lines, Plus A New TV Spot

Springsteen on Broadway (Netflix)

MUSIC:

"Western Streets", "Bicycle", "Hot Pursuit", "Bleeping Demo", "Neo Western", "Sax Rock And Roll, "Rollin At 5", "Odyssey", "Slow Burn", "Deep Haze", "Screen Saver", "Intrepid", "Floating Cities", "Black Vortex", "Crowd Hammer", "Hiding Your Reality", "Mystery Sax", 

Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

"Synapse" & "Quiescent In Time" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

In December 2016, Rogue One: A Star Wars Story was released into the world. With six weeks of reshoots, a painfully short edit, an unexpected election and a new composer after the first one dropped out due to "scheduling issues", the film was finally finished - the day before its premiere. But was it successful? And more importantly, was it political?

In this final episode of Going Rogue, we look at Rogue One's release, and legacy, and the new life it's about to take in Andor.

Rogue One has now fascinated and captivated me for longer than every person who worked on it (expect John Knoll) - but why? What is it the film that haunts my every waking hour? I saw it in IMAX yesterday and I finally clocked Tony Gilroy's cameo. Did you know Tony Gilroy has a cameo in Rogue One? It's just his voice but he's the Rebel traffic controller who asks for their callsign and when Bodhi's like "... Rogue One?" it's Gilroy who says "Rogue One? There is no Rogue One?!" and honestly what a choice to make for the cameo. Gareth Edwards launches the Tantive V and saves the rebellion. Gilroy says "There is no Rogue One".

What a choice.

You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky.

If you want to get in touch, you can email [email protected]

CLIPS:

 - Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

 - Moving On (Michael Giacchino, Lost)

 - Your Father Would Be Proud (Michael Giacchino, Rogue One: A Star Wars Story)

 - Star Wars Main Theme (John Williams, Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope)

 - Rey's Theme (John Williams, Star Wars Episode VI: The Force Awakens)

 - The Clone Wars Main Theme (Kevin Kiner, Star Wars: The Clone Wars)

 - Ahsoka Leaves (Kevin Kiner, Star Wars: The Clone Wars)

 - Trials of the Darksabre (Kevin Kiner, Star Wars: Rebels)

 - Reminiscence Therapy (John Powell, Solo: A Star Wars Story)

 - A Long Ride Ahead (Alternate Ending) (Michael Giacchino, Rogue One: A Star Wars Story Soundtrack Expanded Edition)

 - The Director's Cut - Rogue One with Gareth Edwards and Chris Miller

 - The Filmumentaries Podcast: 35 - Colin Goudie - Editor of Monsters and Rogue One

MUSIC:

"Tenebrous Brothers Carnival - Intermission", "Bicycle", "I Can Feel It Coming", "Screen Saver", "Bleeping Demo", "Stay the Course", "Hiding Your Reality", "Black Vortex", "Floating Cities", "Ever Mindful", "Wisp of Whorls" & "Concentration"

Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

"Suspended Animation", "Proxima Centuri" & "Quiescent In Time" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

In 2001, The Bourne Identity went through four rounds of reshoots, after going massively over budget and over schedule. The final product, partly directed and potentially edited by producer Frank Marshall instead of director Doug Liman, was a hit. Liman wasn't invited back for the sequel, but writer Tony Gilroy was.

In 2016, Rogue One: A Star Wars Story went through six weeks of reshoots and a massive, post-directors cut re-edit, under the guidance of Tony Gilroy - initially as a writer, and later as a lot more. Lucasfilm would essentially bury his role during the film's promotion, but thanks to the Writers Guild of America, Gilroy got a screenplay credit. To do so, he essentially had to remake Rogue One.

You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky.

If you want to get in touch, you can email [email protected]

CLIPS:

The Bourne Identity Access Granted: Screenwriter Tony Gilroy

Get Out Original Ending with Director Jordan Peele's Commentary

Happy Sad Confused: Chris Weitz

The Moment with Brian Koppelman: Tony Gilroy (2018)

Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

MUSIC:

"Industrial Cinematic", "Hitman", "Black Vortex",  "Hero Down", "Concentration", "Hiding Your Reality", "Bleeping Demo", "The Complex", "Scissors", "Screensaver", "Peace of Mind", "Floating Cities", "Stay the Course", "Anguish", "Prelude & Action", "Lost Frontier", "Wisps of Whorls", "On the Shore" & "Rynos Theme"

Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

"Suspended Animation" & "The Paladin's Underworld" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com

By early 2016, Rogue One had wrapped shooting and moved into the edit. Editors Jabez Olssen and Colin Goudie had been cutting the film since the day cameras rolled, but with director Gareth Edwards's loose, unplanned shooting style and habit of shooting images over story, the edit would take, according to Edwards, "three years".

They had nine months.

Meanwhile, in San Francisco, a complete different team were pouring over the Rogue One rushes to create a much shorter version of the film that would be seen by far more people: the trailers. Notably different to the films, the trailers have been the source of Rogue One conspiracy theories since the film's release, but was the film ever anything like the trailers? And were the trailers ever anything like the film?

You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky.

If you want to get in touch, you can email [email protected]

CLIPS:

- E.C. Henry's Rogue One Editor Interview: Colin Goudie (spoiler-free)

- The Director's Cut - Rogue One with Gareth Edwards and Chris Miller

- The Filmmakers Podcast - How To Edit A Star Wars Movie with Rogue One and Monsters Editor Colin Goudie

- A New Hope (George Lucas, 1977)

- Star Wars & The Empire Strikes Back Trailers (Lucasfilm, 1976 & 1979)

- Rogue One Trailers (Lucasfilm, 2016)

- Star Wars: The Last Jedi Trailer (Lucasfilm, 2017)

MUSIC:

"Jet Fueled Vixen", "Floating Cities", "Odyssey", "Lost Frontier", "Bleeping Demo", "Stay the Course", "Hiding Your Reality", "The Complex", "Tenebrous Brothers Carnival - Prelude", "Envision", "Prelude & Action", "Industrial Cinematic", "Lithium", "Intrepid" & "I Can Feel It Coming"

Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

"Suspended Animation" & "I Domine" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com