Kerry Lutz and John Rubino discussed the recent significant price increases in gold and copper, both reaching all-time highs. John highlighted that gold has outperformed the S&P 500 over the past two decades, while copper's importance is growing due to its role in energy transitions and AI technologies. They noted favorable conditions for mining stocks, which are benefiting from rising metal prices and stable costs. Sandstorm Gold was mentioned as a company positioned for growth, focusing on reducing debt and increasing cash flow from higher sales. The conversation also included a cautionary note about the necessity for major mining companies to pursue mergers and acquisitions to address depleting reserves. The performance of gold, silver, the S&P 500, and tech stocks since 1999 was analyzed, revealing that gold yielded about 9% compared to the S&P 500's 5%. John explained that the liquidity injected into the economy has inflated asset prices, suggesting that some overvalued assets may be due for a crash. Historical trends indicate that tech stocks, after a period of high returns, often experience significant declines. Lutz agreed, emphasizing that even high-quality tech stocks can drop dramatically when overvalued, highlighting the need for caution among investors. John expressed optimism about gold and silver's future performance, advising investors to maintain a diverse portfolio in the mining sector and to consider cashing out during acquisitions. Lutz pointed out the mixed success of major mining companies with acquisitions, often leading to overpayment for assets. The discussion also touched on the broader economic landscape, including unprecedented government debt and spending patterns, with concerns about how this liquidity could impact financial assets, potentially leading to inflation or boosting speculative stocks. The conversation shifted to the pervasive fraud in government funding, particularly through NGOs, and the financial benefits for individuals in the political and expert classes. They critiqued the cycle of dependency and corruption that arises from large sums of money being funneled back into political campaigns. Additionally, they proposed the creation of a museum dedicated to corruption in Washington, D.C., envisioning it as both a serious proposal and a satirical commentary on political issues. The discussion concluded with a focus on the lucrative potential of selling citizenship cards, reflecting a shift in the perception of citizenship as a valuable brand. Find John here: https://rubino.substack.com Find Kerry here: http://financialsurvivalnetwork.com/ and here: https://inflation.cafe