Back to back weeks with wakeskaters on the pod? You're damn right. T.J. has been around the wakeskate scene for what feels like forever. Getting started wakeboarding behind a small Boston Whaler, T.J. quickly shifted to wakeskating once he realized he and his friends would need a much bigger boat if they wanted continue to progress on their wakeboards. From there T.J. made the move from Miami up to Orlando to continue to entrench himself in wakeskating. Riding with the likes of Andrew Pastura and Nick Taylor T.J. has had some impressive wakeskating in his own right, including a killer section in Human Rocket. Wakeskating.com, Sfumato, blunts on a wakeboard, winch etiquette, owning spots, The Wakeskate Tour, Suwannee, and kickflipping wakeboards. Hear all that and much more in Episode 67 of the Grab Matters Podcast!

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Chapters:
00:00 - 2:00 Intro
7:00 Getting into wakeboarding
18:25 First wakeskate
20:00 Wakeskating.com
27:15 Sfumato
28:30 First contest 
36:00 Moving to Orlando 
45:00 First time in Europe
50:30 Best thing done on a skate
52:12 LF’n Wheel of Questions
1:13:30 Blunts on a wakeboard?
1:15:40 Sponsors 
1:19:00 Riding crew
1:21:50 Riding with Andrew
1:28:17 Driftline “Deserves Some Love”
1:30:30 Water Monsters/Remote
1:46:30 Suwannee 
2:00:00 The Wakeskate Tour
2:02:00 Suwannee build
2:30:34 Wakeskating currently 
2:38:20 Is wakeskating too hard?
2:45:00 Winch etiquette 
2:58:00 Best premiere 
3:03:00 Winching “tips”
3:09:00 Gas Vs Electric winches 
3:16:30 Kickflipping wakeboards

Links:
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Before Brandon Thomas was ever a sponsored rider he broke his femur while riding at OWC, where he was taken to the hospital where both his parents happened to be that same day. Shortly after arriving he was told that he would likely never be able to wakeskate again, that obviously did not turn out to be the case. BT has racked up some impressive wins, like at The Masters and Byerly’s Toe Jam, to name a couple. We’re talking with BT about hanging out with Dale Earnhardt, boat riding vs winching, riding for some of the industries biggest brands, ghost riding a jetski, winching in Las Vegas, Rockwilder, some Scott Byerly stories, and how he helped mentor Daniel Grant. Hear all that and much more in Episode 66 of the Grab Matters Podcast!

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Chapters:
00:00 - 2:00 Intro
2:10 Favorite Grab
3:20 Dale Earnhardt Junior
9:05 Getting into wakeskating
17:30 Breaking your femur
23:00 The Projects
27:50 LF’n Wheel of Questions
33:20 Toe Jam
35:30 Contest mentality 
40:00 Boat vs. winch 
43:50 Sponsors 
48:00 Getting dropped
52:45 Jetski ghost ride
54:55 From rider to filmer
59:50 Driftline “Deserves Some Love”
1:01:50 Wakeskate popularity 
1:05:20 Setup/Bi-level board
1:07:20 Masters win
1:12:30 Filming
1:15:40 Drones
1:18:10 Daniel Grant
1:23:50 Scott Byerly
1:26:40 Final part?
1:30:20 Wakeskate beef
1:32:30 Rockwilder 
1:40:25 Las Vegas wakeskating 
1:45:00 Wakeskating now
1:47:30 Lake secrecy 
1:530:00 Thank you’s

Links:
Dale Earnhardt Jr. Crib: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rJWFmWjWJ8
Ghost Ride Jetski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obuDWl9xs38
Wakeglades with Guenther Oka: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IADYwhuS1RM 
Rockwilder Wakeskating: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3ObyHmM9o8
Las Vegas Wakeskating: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3PY_3XEC6I

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Brooks Wilson was the brand manager of one of the biggest waterski brands in the industry, Radar. We sit down and talk with Brooks about his recent decision to leave that position and venture out on his own to start a business here in Florida. Before Brooks worked for Radar, he was a professional waterskier and has had a tremendous impact on waterskiing, and watersports as a whole. From basically learning to ski with legend Wade Cox to coaching at The Boarding School alongside industry icon Travis Moye, among others. Winching on a waterski, Wilson Bros, contests vs freeskiing, the best selling waterski, being a brand manager, Radar Lake, and skiing on a frozen lake. Hear all that and much more in Episode 65 of the Grab Matters Podcast!

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Chapters:
00:00 - 2:30 Intro
3:00 Winching on a waterski (reel)
7:00 Moving back to Florida
8:50 Growing up on the water
19:00 First sponsors
21:30 College skiing
24:00 Entrepreneurial spirit 
29:00 Radar/The Wilson Bros
40:00 Tournament skiing 
44:30 Signing with MasterCraft
53:00 Radar Nation
1:01:00 End of Wilson Bros
1:07:00 Brand Manager at Radar
1:17:20 LF’n Wheel of Questions 
1:32:10 Brand Manager “Role” 
1:50:00 Industry talk
1:58:30 Driftline “Deserves Some Love”
2:06:50 Releasable Ski Binding
2:10:00 Leaving Radar
2:20:00 Currently 
2:30:40 Cold water skiing 
2:33:00 Rapid fire

Links:
Wilson Bros Ripping Radar Style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxiK6Y_suKs
Wilson Bros x MasterCraft: https://vimeo.com/186306728
Stare: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1191711427544326
Skiing on a frozen lake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9i1hm5X5PGc
100 consecutive wake crossings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu2iwfxHfJM&t=189s
McConkey: https://unofficialnetworks.com/2024/05/13/the-unofficial-game-of-gnar-the-movie/

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Keith grew up in Minnesota, getting on the water during the short Midwest American summers when he could. But after a move down to Florida in his late teens for college, Keith found the cable and quickly became even more hooked on wakeboarding than he already was. Spending time at the projects, Keith honed both his rail riding and his boat riding, and almost beating Parks Bonifay in one of the biggest rail events of the time, The Carnival. A $3,000 phone bill, skinny stances, partying, the projects, riding for 4 board brands, CTRL, video parts, and the future of boat and cable riding. Hear all that and much more in Episode 64 of the Grab Matters Podcast. 

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Chapters:
00:00 - 3:00 Intro
3:40 Fise phone bill
7:40 Transitioning out of riding
13:50 Growing up in Minnesota
24:30 LF’n Wheel of Questions
36:50 Moving to Florida
41:50 Old school cable riding
43:15 The Projects 
48:35 First sponsors
1:03:00 Partying 
1:09:35 Driftline “ Deserves Some Love”
1:12:10 Video Parts
1:27:20 Short temper
1:30:10 Carnival
1:39:00 Wake The Line
1:43:15 CTRL Wakeboards
2:00:00 Future of boat and cable

Links:
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Hipnose: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VUVBF3RI_c

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Who has won the most wakeboard contests? Who has invented the most tricks? Who has signed one of the largest contracts in wakeboardings history? The answer to all of those questions is Darin Shapiro. Darin got started in watersports before wakeboarding as we know it was even a thing. Starting at the cable, Darin took countless laps on a trick ski, and barefooting, but it wasn’t until “ski boarding” came around that he really started to find some success. Darin was flown out by Herb O’Brien to a contest in Hawaii in 1991, and from there Darins journey in the sport began and had no signs of slowing down. Winning over 70 pro contests, inventing countless tricks, starring in 2 video games, signing one of wakeboardings largest contracts, the speedball, and retiring twice. Hear all that and much more in Episode 63 of the Grab Matters Podcast!

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Chapters: 
00:00 - 1:40 Intro
3:00 Darin's biggest contract
5:40 Getting started at the cable
14:20 First contest in Hawaii
16:30 Inventing the raley 
19:40 Skiboard prototype
23:00 Modifying boards 
27:40 Sponsors
31:30 Biggest year
33:15 LF’n Wheel of Questions
39:30 Darin's video game
41:30 Is winning everything?
42:50 Wakeboarding unleashed  
45:15 Video parts
49:30 Tricks
54:00 Triples
58:10 Inventing tricks
1:08:20 Driftline “Deserves Some Love”
1:10:55 Scud
1:11:50 Contests
1:17:00 Mindset
1:27:20 Being the “contest guy”
1:32:05 WSIA (Ad)
1:44:20 Retiring 
1:48:00 Directional boards
1:50:20 Darin's favorite board
1:53:00 Back problems
2:01:30 Jiu Jitsu

Links:
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Resurgence: https://vimeo.com/104328103

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We start off the 6th installment of Shop Talk with the Mount Rushmore of Best Wakeboard Contests. After that the boys are talking all things wake, including going over events like Munich Mash, Copenwaken, and the most recent PWT stop. We also go over the new edit "Foama" from Felix Georgii and Dom Hernler, which is an absolute must watch. In addition to edits and events, were chatting about how harshly reverts should be punished in a contest run, the differences between boat and cable cultures, if pro's should pay for a pass to the cable, Herbs Cup, contest pay, Olympic wakeboarding, and streetjam. Hear all this and much more in the 6th Episode of Shop Talk!

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Chapters:
00:00 - 00:20 Intro
00:30 Mt. Rushmore of Contests
20:17 LF’n Wheel of Questions 
24:40 Laces in or out?
25:50 Reverts?
31:15 PWT
33:18 Herbs Cup
36:34 Driftline “Deserves Some Love”
43:50 Life Jackets
46:30 Boat vs. Cable worlds
50:00 Foama
55:40 Fatsac Fast Five
1:02:30 Munich Mash
1:04:20 Copenwaken
1:09:00 Contest pay
1:12:00 Wakefest
1:19:00 New products
1:24:00 Free passes to a cable?
1:27:30 Olympics?
1:31:00 Streetjam
1:33:40 Events

Links: 
Depth Charge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FQONJbAGng
Foama: https://www.redbull.com/hu-hu/videos/foama-felix-georgii-dominik-hernler-unchained-
Victor Copenwaken: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evum3CYgUQU
Graham Slam: https://www.instagram.com/p/C9I43bABOFo/
PWT Team Challenge Recap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imh6hCz_ixc

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He was given a 1 stop ban on the pro tour for hitting a pine cone with a wiffle ball bat? Chase Heavener is a former professional wakeboarder from Orlando, Florida, and has been around since the early days of the sport. Seeing it progress from "trick ski" style riding to where the sport is today has been a wild ride, and a ride that Chase had some influence in. When he got into the sport, he didn't feel as though the current contest landscape represented his crews style of riding, or their vision for the sport, and some feathers were ruffled in the pursuit of change. After his riding career, Chase went behind the scenes and helped create some of wakeboarding's most iconic videos. Getting banned from Wakeboarding Mag, the New Crew, running a 5 minute mile, Neptune, sinking a boat 4 times, and the current media landscape. Hear all that and much more in Episode 62 of the Grab Matters Podcast!

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Chapters:
00:00 - 1:30 Intro
3:40 Tim Tebow Doc
5:20 Disqualified from the PWT
7:50 Running
9:20 First time riding
14:00 First sponsors
18:00 Finless
22:40 4x4 hole pattern
23:30 Neptune
27:00 New Crew
38:00 LF’n Wheel of Questions
43:25 Gnar ramp
45:50 Mayday
51:00 Getting into filming
56:20 Erik Ruck question
58:25 Attention Deficit 
59:23 Driftline “Deserves Some Love”
1:03:00 What makes a movie good?
1:08:30 Pre Pop
1:13:50 WSIA (Ad)
1:14:40 Alliance Wake
1:23:00 Fast Five by Fatsac
1:30:00 Setup
1:34:40 Banned from WBM
1:39:00 X Games Judging
1:44:00 Media landscape
1:51:05 Foiling

Links:
Byerly in Hit It: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqpoqCLxxts&t=66s
Gnar Ramp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUEE2rZGxT4
Decline of the waterski monopoly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPvQjFfDQFk&t=1563s
Rave till dawn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADe20Gns8QA

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What does the future of cable riding look like in America? In this episode we sit down with the Director of Operations at Aktion Parks, Kellan Rudnicki. Kellan got into wakeboarding at Ski Rixen, after initially trying to learn how to kiteboard and getting told he needs to hit the cable to learn board control first. Once falling in love with the sport, Kellan restarted the wakeboard club at his college UCF, then took a job out of the industry after graduating. Eventually an opportunity arose to get back into cable park ops, and Kellan worked his way back into the world of wakeboarding. Indian lines, ideal cable speed, industry infighting, decline of extreme sports, wake moms, profitability of cable parks, europe vs america, ski resorts vs cable parks, and grassroots events. Hear all that and much more in Episode 61 of the Grab Matters Podcast!

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Chapters:
00:00 - 1:30 Intro
4:30 Starting at Ski Rixen
18:00 Out of industry work
19:40 Patreon Question
20:15 Aktion Parks
21:35 Closing ECP
25:00 Collegiate wakeboarding
28:20 Boat contests at OWC
32:00 Dan Jarrett guest question
36:00 Oh come on man
43:00 Why do people quit riding?
46:55 Extreme sports
52:35 LF’n Wheel of Questions
1:03:00 Offseason talk
1:06:35 Driftline “Deserves Some Love”
1:11:30 The Business of cables
1:25:00 Issues with cables
1:30:00 Park sponsors
1:37:00 The perfect cable park
1:50:00 Decline of extreme sports
1:52:30 Ski resorts vs. cable parks
2:10:10 Setup
2:14:00 The hub of wakeboarding
2:15:40 Patreon Questions
2:21:10 Grassroots events
2:31:20 Thank you’s

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How do you navigate running a brick and morter pro shop in today's time where Amazon seems to run everything eCommerce? Bill Porter is the founder and owner of Performance Ski and Surf, located in Orlando, Florida. Being in the heart of the towed watersports scene, Bill's shop is the "go to" pro-shop for everything wake and watersports. Although his mom initially tried to get people to convince Bill to not open Performance, he did it anyways, and has had a profound influence on both pro riders and beginners alike. Herb O'Brien's influence, wakeboard tech, online operation vs. brick and mortar, customer service, the most important innovation wakeboarding has seen, selling snow gear, Nautique vs. Mastercraft, and the future of wakeboarding and Performance Ski and Surf. Hear all that and much more in Episode 60 of the Grab Matters Podcast!

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Chapters:
00:00 - 1:20 Intro
4:00 Intro to watersports
7:20 Herb Obrien 
10:00 Dealer territories 
15:00 Waterskiing vs. Wakeboarding 
22:30 Wakeboard tech
24:25 More retro boards
26:10 LF’n Wheel of Questions
31:40 GOAT
33:50 Online stores
35:20 Customer service
47:44 Driftline Deserves Some Love
50:00 OWC x Perfski
53:00 Industry shifts
55:00 Gear talk
1:03:20 Ski Boat Covers (Ad)
1:07:20 Selling snow gear
1:13:25 Question from Rusty Malinoski
1:18:40 Grassroots
1:31:10 Being a pro
1:33:10 Nautique to MasterCraft
1:41:30 Most influential 
1:44:00 Future of wakeboarding 
1:53:40 Future of Perfski

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We start off the 5th installment of Shop Talk with the Mount Rushmore of "Worst things that can happen to you on the boat". After that were touching on wakeskating making an appearance at the X Games, who is the best wake photographer, life jacket requirements, optimal cable speed, winch kickers, Wake The City, RGR, a question from Sam De Haan on our thoughts on "grabbing a rail" while riding, Don Pedro, and Violet. We end this episode with all of our gnarliest winching stories, with T.J. having a wild one from winching at a spot in South Florida. 

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Chapters:
00:00 - 27:00 Mount Rushmore
27:25 LF’n Wheel of Questions 
30:00 Best photographer 
35:50 X Games Wakeskating
46:35 Driftline Deserves Some Love
52:50 Instagram Questions
1:15:00 Building a kicker
1:16:30 30km as cable speed?
1:21:00 Fatsac Fast Five Sponsor insert
1:26:00 Event calendar 
1:36:00 PWL Talk
1:48:35 Return of Remote?
1:49:35 Red Bull Wake the City 
1:53:30 RGR
1:59:15 Pardon My Take Wakeboarding
2:09:00 Don Pedro x Spicytv
2:13:30 IWWF Pan Am
2:17:25 New Wake Park in Virginia
2:24:30 Best part in wakeboarding 
2:25:50 Violet
2:32:40 Bussup Bussup
2:34:40 Gnarliest winch stories 

Links:
Chris Roberts at X Games: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhyC0w8meaA
Wake The City: https://www.redbull.com/us-en/events/red-bull-wake-the-city/
RGR: https://www.grabmatters.com/rail-garden-rampage
PMT Wakeboarding: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukkWGdK4nhg
Don Pedro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0Fh7j9z678
Violet: 
Virginia Wake Park: https://www.slobber.xyz/articles/the-man-behind-the-lake
Tape: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gohcSuZ5IXQ&t=840s
Human Rocket: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRoEu0a3iWQ&t=404s
Felix Real Wake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-R0ia0K2BQ

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