Harvey Mason Jr., CEO of the Recording Academy and the first Black CEO of the organization, joins Jack and Mike to discuss the state of the Grammys, the challenge of staying innovative and relevant in a streaming world, how Reggaeton and Hip-Hop can win the top awards, and how the Grammys could expand into developing Grammy shows in other languages.

We also discussed how he pivoted from basketball to the boardroom, and his advice to Brown and Black up-and-comers about what it takes to become a leader at work and in life.

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