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Welcome back to the Grey Dynamics podcast. This week we are talking to Lewis Sage-Passant about the obscure and understudied world of private sector intelligence. Lewis is the Global Head of Intelligence at a major pharmaceutical company and an Adjunct Professor at Science Po. Previously, Lewis served in the British Armed Forces and worked in private intelligence roles in the energy, banking and software sectors. His new book, “Beyond States and Spies: The Security Intelligence Services of the Private Sector” provides an overview of corporate intelligence structures and functions. We discussed how intelligence interacts with different industries, industrial espionage, controversial firms and much more.

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0:45 Lewis’ background

4:28 The differences between working in government and private intelligence

8:37 Lewis’ previous experience with a travel risk start-up

13:32 Why Lewis wrote his new book, Beyond States and Spies: The Security Intelligence Services of the Private Sector

18:06 What is the difference between in-house corporate intelligence teams and private intelligence vendors/service providers, and how do they interact?

21:23 The variety of private intelligence service providers

24:48 The role the oil and gas industry has played in developing in-house intelligence capabilities

26:40 Pharmaceutical companies have developed intelligence capabilities, how do they use them?

31:20 How does private sector intelligence interact with the professional sports industry?

34:15 What role does government play in the private sector in cases of state-sponsored industrial espionage

40:17 Is the line between state and private intelligence capabilities blurring, and will it lead to regulation?

44:25 How much can governments influence the activities of the private sector?

45:48 Cooperation on dual-use technologies and supply chain risk

48:29 Controversial private intelligence firms and tactics

52:05 Advice for people trying to get into private intelligence

56:28 Cultural recommendations

1:00:44 What did Lewis not cover in the book?

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Welcome back to the Grey Dynamics podcast! This week, Marcel Plichta, the lead instructor of the intelligence school, joins us to discuss writing a killer intelligence report, the future of the course, and the feedback we have received.

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• 0:00 - How to write a killer intelligence report workshop
• 4:02 - Discussing the Grey Dynamics Intelligence School (GDIS) and feedback
• 14:54 - Future GDIS courses on HUMINT and Crypto Intelligence

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Welcome back to the Grey Dynamics Podcast. This is our first episode of season 4! This week we are talking to Raymond White, a former CIA senior operations officer. Raymond has spent over 25 years in the agency, in the directorate of analysis and directorate of operations. He has worked on issues such as Iran’s Nuclear capabilities, the Syrian civil war and North Korea. As well as training the next generation of intelligence officers. Since his career in the CIA, Raymond has founded Wolfpack Consulting. Teaching clients CIA methodology for optimal outcomes. We spoke about CIA priorities over the years, the role of HUMINT in modern intelligence operations, which agencies have most impressed him and more.

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• 0:00 - Ray’s background
• 7:39 - Beginning work in CIA operations
• 12:11 - Moving laterally in the agency
• 14:02 - Following Iran’s nuclear capabilities
• 14:52 - CIA culture over time and working during the global war on terror
• 17:48 - New era great power competiton and proxy warfare
• 23:21 - Confronting the changing landscape, priorities and the importance of HUMINT
• 29:15 - Which allied and adversarial foreign agencies have impressed Ray?
• 38:44 - Ray’s time supporting the development of the next generation of CIA officers
• 41:51 - Life after the CIA and entering the private sector
• 47:37 - Advice to young people looking to get into intelligence
• 53:03 - What Ray is reading and cultural recommendations

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Welcome back to the Grey Dynamics Podcast! Today we are talking to Esther Atwell, a former linguist and collection manager who spent over a decade at the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). Esther has had a varied career beyond intelligence, working as a tutor, realtor and court interpreter on the island of Hawaii. We discussed working in the CIA and overseas, what it takes to work in intelligence, immigrating to the US and much more. Esther is also the partner of our previous guest, CIA operations officer John Atwell.

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• 1:10 - Early life, learning languages, tutoring, livining overseas and joining the CIA with her husband.
• 18:42 - Being an Operationally Certified Collection Management Officer
• 23:59 - The desired traits of someone wants to work in this field
• 28:47 - Esether's view on faith and not mourning over missed opportunity
• 33:30 - Immigrating to the US and sense of patriotic duty
• 40:05 - Esther on working in the CIA and overseas as a woman and someone with foreign heritage
• 45:50 - Advice for young people looking to work in intelligence
• 54:16 - Cultural recommendations

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Welcome back to the Grey Dynamics Podcast! This week we are talking to Michael Hawkes, a former 22 Special Air Service operator. Michael spent twenty four years in the British Army, twelve of which in the SAS. Including six in covert operations. He also served as a military advisor to UK's intelligence services. For the last twenty two years he has had a successful career in corporate security, working all over the world. We spoke about his experience in UKSF selection, his time in Northern Ireland, getting kidnapped in Bosnia and much more.

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• 0:00 - Introduction and Michael’s background
• 07:14 - Michael’s upcoming book
• 11:58 - First time in UKSF selection and fatal accidents during training
• 18:45 - Michael’s day one experience in 22 SAS
• 22:15 - Michael’s time in Northern Ireland and working undercover
• 41:58 - Michael’s time in Bosnia and getting kidnapped by Serbians
• 59:02 - Working as a CQB instructor and working alongside female operators
• 1:05:33 - Discussing surveillance activities
• 1:11:00 - Hawkes & Co.
• 1:26:51 - Should young people join the UK armed forces currently?
• 1:29:30 - Cultural recommendations

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Welcome back to the Grey Dynamics podcast. This week we are discussing Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 (2022) in all its action packed Hollywood glory. As usual we'll be looking at the story from an intelligence perspective, digging into the games' realism, what it got right and what it got wrong.

• 0:00 - Intro
• 6:27 - Strike
• 16:23 - Kill or Capture
• 19:23 - Wetwork and Tradecraft
• 29:29 - Borderline
• 33:31 - Cartel Protection
• 37:15 - Close Air and Hardpoint
• 42:18 - Recon by Fire
• 46:12 - Violence and Timing
• 49:05 - El Sin Nombre
• 53:37 - Dark Water
• 56:56 - Alone
• 1:00:00 - Prison Break
• 1:01:21 - Hindsight
• 1:02:57 - Ghost Team
• 1:05:01 - Countdown
• 1:08:46 - Ending
• 1:09:28 - Thoughts
• 1:20:49 - Cultural Recommendations

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Welcome back to the Grey Dynamics Podcast! This week we are talking to Keven Hendricks, an expert and pioneer in Crypto and Dark Web investigations. Keven is the founder of Ubivis, a project dedicated to combatting the spread of narcotics using the dark web. He has worked previously under the FBI and DEA, taking part in various task forces. We discussed adapting to the changing crypto landscape, taking down criminals operating on the dark web, privacy in crypto, the tools he uses to keep himself secure and much more.

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• 1:10 - Kevin’s background
• 3:54 - Being part of an anti-online exploitation task force
• 6:17 - How Kevin began specialising in cryptocurrencies
• 10:03 - Working with federal and international organisations, adapting to the changing crypto landscape and participating in the take down of illicit marketplaces
• 15:24 - Where adversaries on the dark web slip up
• 18:34 - How criminals using cryptocurrencies cash out
• 22:02 - Cryptocurrency ATMs
• 24:44 - Monero and other privacy centric cryptocurrencies
• 29:07 - Using privacy centric crytocurrencies
• 31:56 - What is TOR?
• 36:09 - Disscusing Torndao Cash
• 44:14 - Most private and secure messaging apps
• 47:25 - Which mobile OS is more secure?
• 50:00 - Recommendations for tools similar to TOR and TailsOS
• 52:09 - Advice for conducting investigations into crypto and the dark web
• 55:32 - Cultural recommendations
• 57:22 - Final thoughts and the increasing relevancy of cryptocurrencies

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Welcome back to the Grey Dynamics Podcast! This week we are talking to Dr Andreas Krieg, director of MENA Analytica and associate professor at King's College London. He is also the author of Subversion: The Strategic Weaponization of Narratives. Andreas has a wealth of experience in the private sector, academia and supporting the UK armed forces training and doctrine. We discussed learning how to spot opportunity, getting exposure outside of academic circles, ways forward for the situation in Gaza and much more.

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• 0:44 - Andreas’ background
• 6:15 - Hunting for opportunities 
• 11:10 - Legacy, economy of effort in academia and exposure outside of academia
• 15:00 - Academic publications and their relationship to the public
• 19:48 - Getting exposure outside of academic circles
• 25:29 - The situation in Gaza and possible ways forward
• 49:00 - Andreas discusses his work surrounding subversion, and how Israel uses it
• 54:56 - Career advice
• 1:06:28 - Cultural recommendations

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Welcome back to the Grey Dynamics Podcast! This week we are talking again to Gareth Westwood, Sibylline's head of global intelligence. Gareth is a highly experienced practitioner, having previously worked for the UK government in the Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office, the Ministry of Defence and in the private sector with AstraZeneca. We talked about demystifying the private sector, implementing AI and machine learning into intelligence, what makes a great leader and much more.

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• 0:35 - Response to the podcast
• 2:07 - Gareth’s background and demystifying the private sector
• 5:20 - How Sibylline’s team is set up and how private intelligence vendors and in-house teams work together
• 13:53 - Data Analysis and AI, how Gareth’s organisation implements it and what the future could look like
• 24:02 - Strategies for fully understanding what the stakeholder wants to know and getting feedback
• 37:31 - What makes a good intelligence and business leader?
• 57:34 - What advice Gareth has for managers and leaders
• 1:03:36 - The importance of one-to-ones with your staff
• 1:08:23 - Is it healthy to create a competitive workplace with visible analytics based on performance?
• 1:15:32 - Cultural recommendations

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Welcome back to the Grey Dynamics podcast. This week we are doing another editor's note. I discussed some updates concerning the course, the new website, upcoming espionage week as well as some reflections on my time in Somalia and journey with Grey Dynamics. Enjoy!

• 1:07 - Grey Dynamics Intelligence School
• 5:01 - Website changes
• 6:57 - Forthcoming intelligence guides
• 8:53 - Phase two of the course
• 10:16 - Espionage Week
• 11:22 - Ahmed on Somalia and its future
• 19:31 - Reflections on experinces, work ethic and more
• 28:33 - Cultural Recommendations

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