Grief and Light™

"The cure for anything is salt water: sweat, tears, or the sea.” This quote by Isak Dinesen inspired today’s guest, Margot Fowkes, to create Salt Water, a virtual community where grievers can share their stories and honor their loved ones.

Margo is the founder and president of OnTarget Consulting and author of the award-winning book, LEADING THROUGH LOSS: HOW TO NAVIGATE GRIEF AT WORK, helps leaders create more compassionate workplaces by acknowledging and speaking openly about grief.

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Margot shares her journey of grief after the death of her son, Jimmy. She discusses Jimmy's resilience during his illness, and the moments that shaped her perspective on motherhood and loss.

Salt Water was founded to honor all types of loss, as a virtual community providing resources and welcoming guest writers to share their experiences.

She delves into the challenges of grief in the workplace—how to support grieving colleagues, navigate work when grieving, handle the death of an employee, and find support in virtual or hybrid work environments.

Takeaways

• Each person's grief is unique and should be respected and validated.
• Grief can deepen our understanding of what is truly important in life, and how we want to show up for ourselves and others.
• Navigating grief as a family requires open communication, understanding, and allowing each person to grieve in their own way.
• Creating spaces for sharing stories and honoring all types of loss can provide comfort and support for grievers.
• Grief can impact one's definition of motherhood, and navigating the balance between letting go and stepping in can be challenging.
• Creating a compassionate culture that recognizes and supports grief and loss is essential in the workplace and in society.
• Grief at work can have a significant impact on productivity and well-being. It's essential to create a compassionate and supportive culture.
• Companies can implement simple initiatives to provide support & understanding for grieving employees.

Connect with Margo Fowkes:

• ontargetconsulting.net
• findyourharbor.com
• Book: LEADING THROUGH LOSS
• IG @findyourharbor
• Facebook
• LinkedIn

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• griefandlight.com
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Grief and Light™ is an award-winning, independent podcast exploring the honest, messy, deeply human experience of loss and grief.

Grief-fluency is a life-affirming skill we were never taught. We're here to change that.

Hosted by grief-informed guide and sibling loss survivor Nina Rodriguez, the show fosters a more grief-informed, hopeful world, one conversation at a time. At its heart is one belief: to grieve fully is to live fully. 

Now in Season 5, with 130+ episodes, the show features changemakers, researchers, creatives, and leaders exploring loss, identity, uncertainty, and what it means to keep living when life changes.

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How can we unlock joy after loss? 

This episode explores the possibility of experiencing joy after loss and provides guidance on incorporating self-compassion and joy into the grieving process. It emphasizes the importance of honoring each moment, leaning into curiosity, and rewarding the questions that arise. Nina shares tips for cultivating joy, such as setting reminders for gratitude and using mantras, and discusses the complexities of feeling joy after loss, including guilt, betrayal, and the recognition of all the things the loved one will never experience.

Join us as we discuss grounding techniques, reducing stress, and adding gentleness and lightness to daily life. This episode is a compassionate guide for anyone navigating the delicate balance of grief and joy.

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Takeaways :

• Experiencing joy after loss is possible and a sign of readiness for the next step forward in the grieving process. 
• Honoring each moment and leaning into curiosity can help incorporate self-compassion and joy into the grieving process. 
• Setting reminders to practice gratitude and affirmations can create an anchor for joy and make it safe to feel joy again. 
• Feeling joy after loss can be complex and may involve fear, guilt, and a sense of betrayal, but it is still possible and can evolve over time. 
• Finding one's own path to joy and embracing the fullness of the grief experience is important. 
• Feeling joy after loss can be complex, involving feelings of guilt, betrayal, and sadness.
• Creating a sense of community and support is essential in the journey towards joy after loss. 
• Letting light and joy into one's life slowly and gently can help navigate the vulnerability and risks associated with feeling joy after loss. 
• Grounding oneself, reducing stress, and adding gentleness and lightness to daily life can contribute to the experience of joy after loss. 

About Nina Rodriguez: 

Nina is founder and host of the Grief and Light Podcast, created after the unexpected loss of her only sibling, as an authentic exploration of grief and life after loss. Through each conversation, she aims to give a voice to the griever’s experience, and foster a more grief-informed, hopeful world. 

Beyond the podcast, Nina extends her heart-centered support through monthly circles, personalized mentorship, speaking engagements, active presence on social media, and forthcoming in-person retreats. 

She regularly contributes to Get Griefy Magazine and has completed the Grief Care Professional Certificate Program under renowned psychotherapist and best-selling author, Megan Devine. 

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Grief and Light™ is an award-winning, independent podcast exploring the honest, messy, deeply human experience of loss and grief.

Grief-fluency is a life-affirming skill we were never taught. We're here to change that.

Hosted by grief-informed guide and sibling loss survivor Nina Rodriguez, the show fosters a more grief-informed, hopeful world, one conversation at a time. At its heart is one belief: to grieve fully is to live fully. 

Now in Season 5, with 130+ episodes, the show features changemakers, researchers, creatives, and leaders exploring loss, identity, uncertainty, and what it means to keep living when life changes.

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Megan Gluth-Bohan's path to success has been anything but a straight line, shaped by her challenging upbringing and personal struggles. Growing up in rural Iowa below the poverty line, Megan faced dysfunction, trauma, and difficult circumstances. She struggled with alcohol and drug use, which led to her getting kicked out of college. However, she eventually turned her life around, went back to college, and graduated with a degree in history. Megan's journey continued with law school, where she faced the devastating loss of her first wife to ovarian cancer. This led her down a path of grief and self-destruction, but she eventually found hope and healing in the Pacific Northwest. She met her second wife and started to rebuild her life, eventually becoming the CEO of a company in Seattle. Megan Gluth-Bohan shares her journey of overcoming addiction and building a successful career as a CEO. After getting sober, she took a job as a lawyer and eventually became the president and CEO of a chemical company. She bought the company from her boss and navigated the challenges of leading a business through a global pandemic. Megan emphasizes the importance of self-accountability, personal discipline, and taking care of oneself as a leader. She believes in human-centered capitalism and values the humanity and grit in each person. Megan encourages others to keep going and shares her contact information for further connection.

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Takeaways:

• Success is possible even when starting from challenging circumstances
• Grief and loss can lead to self-destructive behaviors, and they can become your starting point
• Finding hope and healing takes time and gradual progress
• Support from loved ones and community is crucial in overcoming challenges
• Moving to a new environment can provide a fresh start and opportunities for growth 
• Self-accountability and personal discipline are important qualities for leaders
• Human-centered capitalism values the humanity and potential in each person
• Sharing personal stories and experiences can inspire and support others
• It's important to keep going and not give up, even in the face of challenges

Megan Gluth-Bohan's Social & Website:

• megangluthbohan.com
• @megangluthbohan
• Facebook
• LinkedIn

Nina Rodriguez Social & Website:

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• griefandlight.com
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Grief and Light™ is an award-winning, independent podcast exploring the honest, messy, deeply human experience of loss and grief.

Grief-fluency is a life-affirming skill we were never taught. We're here to change that.

Hosted by grief-informed guide and sibling loss survivor Nina Rodriguez, the show fosters a more grief-informed, hopeful world, one conversation at a time. At its heart is one belief: to grieve fully is to live fully. 

Now in Season 5, with 130+ episodes, the show features changemakers, researchers, creatives, and leaders exploring loss, identity, uncertainty, and what it means to keep living when life changes.

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DISCLAIMER: Grief and Light™ is hosted by a grief-informed guide, not a licensed therapist, doctor, or attorney. Nothing shared here is intended as therapy, medical advice, or legal counsel. Seek qualified support.

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Camille Sapara Barton, author of 'Tending Grief, Embodied Rituals for Holding Our Sorrow and Growing Cultures of Caring Community,' discusses the importance of tending to grief and creating communal spaces for grief.

They emphasize the need to process grief through the body, and draw inspiration from the grief rituals of the Dagara people, who see grief as a generative force that supports the well-being of the community. They also highlight the significance of incorporating joy and pleasure into social movements, and the importance of creating spaces for the full range of emotions.

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Takeaways

• Unprocessed emotions can impact our ability to collaborate with others.
• Tending grief can help build trust and create communal spaces.
• The Dagara people view grief as a generative force and hold regular grief rituals for the health of the community.
• Processing grief through the body is important for behavior and internal change.
• Creating intentional spaces for communal grief tending can foster connection and empathy.
• Collective grief work has the potential to bring about transformative change. The resilience toolkit and the GenGrief toolkit are embodied frameworks for navigating stress and grief.
• Safety and facilitation are crucial when practicing these tools in group settings.
• Dance and movement can be powerful tools for processing emotions and connecting to ancestral wisdom.
• Incorporating joy and pleasure in social movements is essential for sustainability and longevity.
• Tending to personal and collective grief can lead to a more beautiful and interconnected future.

Camille Sapara Barton Social & Websites

• TENDING GRIEF Book
• camillesaparabarton.com
• Work with Camille
• IG @camillesaparabarton

Nina Rodriguez Social & Website

• IG @griefandlight
• NOW on YouTube
• griefandlight.com
• Schedule a Clarity Call
• Subscribe to my newsletter

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Grief and Light™ is an award-winning, independent podcast exploring the honest, messy, deeply human experience of loss and grief.

Grief-fluency is a life-affirming skill we were never taught. We're here to change that.

Hosted by grief-informed guide and sibling loss survivor Nina Rodriguez, the show fosters a more grief-informed, hopeful world, one conversation at a time. At its heart is one belief: to grieve fully is to live fully. 

Now in Season 5, with 130+ episodes, the show features changemakers, researchers, creatives, and leaders exploring loss, identity, uncertainty, and what it means to keep living when life changes.

Connect with Nina: Website · Instagram · Substack

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DISCLAIMER: Grief and Light™ is hosted by a grief-informed guide, not a licensed therapist, doctor, or attorney. Nothing shared here is intended as therapy, medical advice, or legal counsel. Seek qualified support.

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In this conversation, Blair Kaplan Venables, a grief and resilience expert, shares her personal journey of resilience and how she turned her pain into purpose after experiencing multiple losses, including the loss of both parents and a pregnancy. She discusses the concept of resilience and defines it as 'bouncing forward' from a challenging experience.

Blair also introduces the Navigating Grief Framework, which consists of five tools she developed to help others navigate their own healing process. She emphasizes the importance of strengthening the resilience muscle and highlights the role of community and rituals in the grief process.

ABOUT BLAIR:

Blair is a grief and resilience expert, and the Founder of The Global Resilience Project. Her expertise has been featured in media outlets, including Forbes, CBC Radio, Entrepreneur, and Thrive Global.

She is the host of the Radical Resilience podcast, a motivational speaker and bestselling author, specializing in helping people strengthen their resilience muscle, and guiding grieving high-performers with her 'Navigating Grief Framework'.

USA Today listed Blair as one of the top 10 conscious female leaders to watch. The International Association of Top Professionals named her "Top Grief and Resilience Expert of the Year" in 2024.

Her life story will be showcased on a new show called “My Story” airing on Apple TV+. And she is on a mission to change lives and spark transformation, with a goal of empowering 88 million people by August 2025.

• Website: theglobalresilienceproject.com
• Instagram: @blairfromblairland

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• @griefandlight
• griefandlight.com
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Grief and Light™ is an award-winning, independent podcast exploring the honest, messy, deeply human experience of loss and grief.

Grief-fluency is a life-affirming skill we were never taught. We're here to change that.

Hosted by grief-informed guide and sibling loss survivor Nina Rodriguez, the show fosters a more grief-informed, hopeful world, one conversation at a time. At its heart is one belief: to grieve fully is to live fully. 

Now in Season 5, with 130+ episodes, the show features changemakers, researchers, creatives, and leaders exploring loss, identity, uncertainty, and what it means to keep living when life changes.

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DISCLAIMER: Grief and Light™ is hosted by a grief-informed guide, not a licensed therapist, doctor, or attorney. Nothing shared here is intended as therapy, medical advice, or legal counsel. Seek qualified support.

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The first five years of grief:

• Year One: Shock and Fog
• Year Two: Year of Permanence
• Year Three: The Year of Inflammation and New Normals
• Year Four: The Pivot Year
• Year Five: The Year of Rebirth

In this episode, Nina Rodriguez reflects on the first five years of her grief journey after the loss of her brother. She shares the different stages and experiences she went through, and discusses the importance of allowing grief to unfold in its own time, and the physical impact it can have on the body. Nina also emphasizes the need for self-care and finding joy amidst grief. The episode concludes with a preview of what to expect in the upcoming season of the podcast.

Takeaways

• Grief is a journey that unfolds in its own time and can be different for everyone.
• The first five years of grief can be characterized by different stages and experiences.
• Allowing grief to be felt and processed is important for healing.
• Grief can have physical effects on the body, and self-care is crucial.
• Finding joy and embracing new normals can be part of the grief journey.
• Sharing stories and experiences can create a more grief-informed and supportive world.

Timestamps

00:00 Introduction and Catching Up
09:51 Reflecting on the First Five Years of Grief
11:44 Year One: Shock and Fog
16:55 Year Two: Year of Permanence
21:12 Year Three: The Year of Inflammation and New Normals
23:16 Year Four: The Pivot Year
26:06 Year Five: The Year of Rebirth
30:44 Preview of Season Three

Related Episodes

• People will say the darnedest things to the grieving
• Nurtured by Nature
• Grieving with Grace

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• @griefandlight
• griefandlight.com
• YouTube
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• Subscribe to my newsletter

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Grief and Light™ is an award-winning, independent podcast exploring the honest, messy, deeply human experience of loss and grief.

Grief-fluency is a life-affirming skill we were never taught. We're here to change that.

Hosted by grief-informed guide and sibling loss survivor Nina Rodriguez, the show fosters a more grief-informed, hopeful world, one conversation at a time. At its heart is one belief: to grieve fully is to live fully. 

Now in Season 5, with 130+ episodes, the show features changemakers, researchers, creatives, and leaders exploring loss, identity, uncertainty, and what it means to keep living when life changes.

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Janet Gwilliam-Wright , a grief awareness advocate and educator, shares her personal experience of losing her mother and how it shaped her life.

She launched the Mother Love Project as a platform for motherless daughters to share their stories, and co-founded Bloomwell Partners, a global training and consulting firm working to build more compassionate and grief-informed workspaces.

In this conversation, Janet discusses the importance of honoring and remembering our loved ones, the complexities of grief, and the need for support and understanding in the workplace.

Janet also shares the two main aspects of her work: consulting and training.

She helps organizations build grief-informed cultures through policies and practices, and provides grief education and training for managers and leaders. The training includes workshops and webinars, and focuses on a six-part framework with monthly coaching calls.

Janet emphasizes the importance of addressing various types of grief, including those not related to death. She also highlights the impact of grief-informed practices on employee retention, recruitment, and overall well-being.

Takeaways

• Grief is complex and nuanced, and it is important to allow ourselves to feel all of the emotions that come with it.
• Support and community are crucial in the grieving process, and connecting with others who have had similar experiences can be incredibly healing.
• The workplace often lacks understanding and support for grieving employees, and there is a need for more compassionate and grief-informed workspaces.
• Managers and leaders play a key role in supporting grieving employees, and training and resources should be provided to help them navigate these situations.
• Grief-informed cultures can be built through policies and practices in organizations.
• Grief education and training for managers and leaders is crucial.
• Different types of grief, beyond the loss of a person, should be addressed.
• Grief-informed practices can improve employee retention, recruitment, and overall well-being.
• Supporting employees through grief and loss not only benefits individuals, but also creates more compassionate and engaged workplaces and communities.

Janet GWilliam Wright's Social & Website:

• Mother Love Project
• Bloomwell Partners
• @janetgwilliamwright
• May 9th Community Call

Nina Rodriguez Social & Website:

• @griefandlight
• griefandlight.com
• 1:1 Grief Support
• Grief & Light Podcast
• Subscribe to my newsletter

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Support the show

Grief and Light™ is an award-winning, independent podcast exploring the honest, messy, deeply human experience of loss and grief.

Grief-fluency is a life-affirming skill we were never taught. We're here to change that.

Hosted by grief-informed guide and sibling loss survivor Nina Rodriguez, the show fosters a more grief-informed, hopeful world, one conversation at a time. At its heart is one belief: to grieve fully is to live fully. 

Now in Season 5, with 130+ episodes, the show features changemakers, researchers, creatives, and leaders exploring loss, identity, uncertainty, and what it means to keep living when life changes.

Connect with Nina: Website · Instagram · Substack

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Lauren "Lolo" Paz, founder of A Soulful Sorrow, discusses the profound journey of grief and finding healing, meaning, and spiritual reconnection after pregnancy loss.

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She highlights the lack of resources and support for women navigating this complex terrain, and emphasizes the importance of a holistic approach to healing, addressing the physical, emotional, and spiritual aspects of grief.

Lolo delves into the challenges of shame and guilt often associated with pregnancy loss, advocating for validation and permission to grieve. Nina and Lolo explore the power of therapy, somatic practices, nature, and rituals in the healing process, underscoring the transformative impact of community and support in navigating the journey of grief with compassion and resilience.

Takeaways:

• Pregnancy loss is a deeply complex and emotional experience that often lacks resources and support.
• Women need validation and permission to acknowledge and process their grief after pregnancy loss.
• The physical, emotional, and spiritual aspects of pregnancy loss can challenge a woman's identity and sense of worth.
• A holistic approach to healing, including therapy, mind-body practices, and self-care, is essential for navigating the grief journey.
• There is a need for frameworks and tools to help women honor their grief, find meaning, and integrate their loss into their lives. 
• Grief is a lifelong companion that should be embraced and learned from, rather than overcome.
• Creating a safe space to acknowledge and process grief is essential for healing.
• Nature can be a powerful source of healing and support in the grieving process.
• Rituals and ceremonies can provide meaning and help honor lost babies.
• Community and support are crucial in navigating the complexities of grief.

Lauren Paz's Social & Websites:

• Instagram: @asoulfulsorrow
• asoulfulsorrow.com
• 1:1 Coaching
• Free Resources

Referenced in Episode:

• Nurtured by nature: Letting nature carry the magnitude of our grief (Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Other Platforms)

Nina Rodriguez Social & Website:

• Instagram: @griefandlight
• Website: griefandlight.com
• Grief & Light Podcast
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Grief and Light™ is an award-winning, independent podcast exploring the honest, messy, deeply human experience of loss and grief.

Grief-fluency is a life-affirming skill we were never taught. We're here to change that.

Hosted by grief-informed guide and sibling loss survivor Nina Rodriguez, the show fosters a more grief-informed, hopeful world, one conversation at a time. At its heart is one belief: to grieve fully is to live fully. 

Now in Season 5, with 130+ episodes, the show features changemakers, researchers, creatives, and leaders exploring loss, identity, uncertainty, and what it means to keep living when life changes.

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“Not everything happens for a reason, but sacred gifts MAY be found in everything that happens – even (and especially) in the most painful things.”  – Not Another Self-Help Book

That’s a quote from the newly published Amazon best-seller titled, "Not Another Self-Help Book: Finding Gifts in the Midst of Life's Sh*t," by guest, Lindsey Kane Leaverton,  who bravely shares her personal journey through grief, loss, and trauma, navigating life's challenges with resilience and humor.

A multifaceted individual, Lindsey serves as the director of wealth management at a boutique financial planning firm in Austin. 

She has seven recorded albums under her belt, is a self-taught guitarist and vocalist, a mother of three, an Amazon best-selling author, and has been featured on The Today Show, The New York Times, People Magazine, and TIME.

Beyond her professional pursuits, she has a strong sense of faith, a vibrant personality, and not-so-secretly dreams of pursuing a career as a stand-up comedian someday. 

In this candid episode, we delve into various pivotal moments that shaped Lindsey's life and personal story, including undergoing conversion therapy, reconciling her faith and lived reality within a conservative religious community, experiencing various traumas, losses, and finding the little miracles and hope in life's most challenging moments.

Lindsey Kane Leaverton's Social & Website:

• Website: notanotherselfhelpbook.com
• Get the book on Amazon
• She's a Lot Interview Series
• Instagram: @lindseykaneleaverton
• Facebook
• Listen on SoundCloud

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• Instagram: @griefandlight
• Website: griefandlight.com
• Ways to Work with Me
• 1:1 Grief Support
• Grief & Light Podcast
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Grief and Light™ is an award-winning, independent podcast exploring the honest, messy, deeply human experience of loss and grief.

Grief-fluency is a life-affirming skill we were never taught. We're here to change that.

Hosted by grief-informed guide and sibling loss survivor Nina Rodriguez, the show fosters a more grief-informed, hopeful world, one conversation at a time. At its heart is one belief: to grieve fully is to live fully. 

Now in Season 5, with 130+ episodes, the show features changemakers, researchers, creatives, and leaders exploring loss, identity, uncertainty, and what it means to keep living when life changes.

Connect with Nina: Website · Instagram · Substack

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What role does movement play in grief?

Emily P. Bingham is a certified grief educator, grief coach, widow, and founder of moveTHRU, which she created after the loss of her husband, Ian, in 2019 to Uveal Melanoma.

moveTHRU was born as a way to create new meaning out of her tragedy by helping others heal.

Her book -- LOVE AND GRIEF: Find Healing, Meaning & Purpose in Life After Loss -- teaches readers how to survive early grief, how to find meaning and purpose as you grow from this experience, and how to rebuild a life where you ultimately thrive.

Emily has worked with hundreds of clients in both private and coaching groups. Additionally, she has reached millions of followers through her social media content.

Her goal is to help anyone who has experienced a loss embrace grief through movement and mindset.

In this open conversation, Emily shares her journey from caretaker of her beloved husband Ian, to newly bereaved widow and mother of two under the age of 3, to how she rebuilt her life helping others, and how she's ultimately thriving through grief and love.

Her story is ultimately one of resilience, surrendering, and deeply understanding that "nothing is ever lost".

Emily P. Bingham's Social & Website:

• Website: movethrugrief.com
• Instagram: @emilypbingham
• Facebook
• TikTok
• Buy the book: LOVE AND GRIEF

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• Website: griefandlight.com
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Episodes of topics referenced in this episode:

• Continuing Bonds: Death ends a life, but not a relationship
• The pain is real, but the suffering is optional
• Grief and personal boundaries

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#griefandlight #griefandlightpodcast

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Support the show

Grief and Light™ is an award-winning, independent podcast exploring the honest, messy, deeply human experience of loss and grief.

Grief-fluency is a life-affirming skill we were never taught. We're here to change that.

Hosted by grief-informed guide and sibling loss survivor Nina Rodriguez, the show fosters a more grief-informed, hopeful world, one conversation at a time. At its heart is one belief: to grieve fully is to live fully. 

Now in Season 5, with 130+ episodes, the show features changemakers, researchers, creatives, and leaders exploring loss, identity, uncertainty, and what it means to keep living when life changes.

Connect with Nina: Website · Instagram · Substack

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