Mel Deane is a personal trainer of high profile clients and is also a former rugby player who played centre for Connacht, Harlequins and Sale Sharks and Richmond. In this conversation with Hugh Keir, Mel shares his experiences and insights on motivation, mindset, and training. They discuss the influence of inspirational figures, the freedom afforded to sportspeople, the impact of money on motivation, and the mindset required for success in sports. Mel also talks about his early training experiences and his approach to training clients. He emphasizes the importance of positivity and finding clients who are motivated and willing to put in the work. The conversation also covers the topic of leadership and the challenges of gaining respect and influence. The discussion touches on the success of smaller nations in rugby and the factors that contribute to their performance. Finally, the conversation explores the role of social media in the fitness industry and the value of building a strong community.