As one of the world’s most respected curators of contemporary art and the current artistic director of London’s Serpentine, Hans Ulrich Obrist is truly on top of his game. Through his innovative programming, his definition-making books, and his endless quest for knowledge and connections, Obrist has taught us to look differently at a profession so crucial in a changing world. On this episode, Dan speaks with the art-world dynamo about how he once curated an exhibition in his kitchen, why he owns an Xbox, the important evolutions of the Serpentine, the future of his profession, and more.

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