ECFR’s director Mark Leonard discusses the launch of PESCO, the latest collective European defence initiative with Senior Policy Fellow Nick Witney and Policy Fellow, Ulrike Franke.The podcast was recorded on 24th November 2017.Bookshelf:George Orwell, Homage to CataloniaPeter Wilson, The Holy Roman EmpireNick Witney, Re-energising Europe's Security and Defence Policy: www.ecfr.eu/publications/summary/re_energising_europes_security_and_defence_policyNick Witney, EU defence efforts miss the open goal again: www.ecfr.eu/article/commentary_eu_defence_efforts_miss_the_open_goal_againECFR New Security Initiative essay collection: www.ecfr.eu/europeanpower/specials/new_european_security_initiative

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