Anyone who’s ever been anywhere near social media can attest to the somewhat loose definition of “self-care” adopted by society. Broadcasters Lauren Mishcon and Nicole Goodman, keen to challenge the deeply consumerist notions underpinning the wellness industry, and so their podcast, The Self-Care Club, in which they try and test different practices, was spawned. Now in its fifth year, the podcast has also led to a book, Have You Tried This: The Only Self-Care Book You Will Ever Need. Jen catches up with Lauren and Nicole to talk about the weird and wonderful things they’ve tried, how they define “self-care”, and just how problematic the industry is for women.

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