Have You Seen This?

Tim and Jen welcome a special guest to discuss a fan edit of a beloved horror classic, The Wicker Man: The Summerisle Cut! Listen for yourself and decide if you want to leave angry comments on archive.org!

View the Summerisle Cut at the Internet Archive.

Visit the Wicker Man site mentioned by our guest, which describes all of the different cuts of the film in detail.

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Jen and Tim agree and disagree on an also-ran Nicolas Roeg movie, Eureka! Jen really gets the bit between her teeth in this one and Tim demonstrates almost saintly patience while she babbles. 

Watch a short documentary on the inspiration for Jack McCann, the gold millionaire Sir Harry Oakes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUgWA_-sUJs

Buy Charlotte Gray’s very engaging bio of Harry Oakes, Murdered Midas, on Alibris.

https://www.alibris.com/booksearch?mtype=B&keyword=murdered+midas&hs.x=0&hs.y=0&hs=Submit

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Jen and Tim agree and disagree on an also-ran Nicolas Roeg movie, Eureka! Jen really gets the bit between her teeth in this one and Tim demonstrates almost saintly patience while she babbles.

Watch a short documentary on the inspiration for Jack McCann, the gold millionaire Sir Harry Oakes.

Buy Charlotte Gray’s very engaging bio of Harry Oakes, Murdered Midas, on Alibris.

For more British filmmaking, listen to our episode on The Firm and its 2009 reboot!

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Cool World is not cool. Emma Bowers (@hyenasandgin) returns to commiserate with Tim and Jen about a very bad animated feature. Turns out this movie did significant psychological damage to young Tim.

Watch Emma's Full Metal Alchemist video!

Compare and contrast: this interview with Ralph Bakshi, and this one with writer Michael Grais. Bakshi claims malfeasance from producer Frank Mancuso, Jr. (to the point of violence). Grais calls Bakshi a liar, essentially. What's the real story? Who knows?

Bakshi puts in this pissing stuff, and toilet stuff. I didn't like that sex attitude in it very much. It's like real repressed horniness; he's kind of letting it out compulsively.

R. Crumb on Ralph Bakshi and the Fritz the Cat feature film

The Tex Avery doc Tim alluded to is called Tex Avery, the King of Cartoons.

If we haven't dissuaded you, you can watch Ralph Bakshi's most recent animated work, The Last Days of Coney Island, on YouTube.

For more animated shite, listen to our episode on Raggedy Ann and Andy: A Musical Adventure!

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What if Black Panther had been the pilot for a TV show, but when they went to series they took out Wakanda and most of the black people? You'd have M.A.N.T.I.S.! HYST superfan mugrimm joins Tim and Jen to talk about what was lost when the Sam Raimi/Sam Hamm/Rob Tapert pilot became a politically toothless show with white sidekicks.

The documentary Jen couldn't remember the name of is Call Me Lucky, and it was directed by Bobcat Goldthwait. It's an account of the life of satirist and activist Barry Crimmins.

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Jen and Tim look at two takes on football hooliganism called The Firm. The 1989 version is a masterpiece, the other, not so much!

The 20-minute documentary Alan Clarke: His Own Man is a nice intro to the director. Also, many of his works can be found on YouTube, so happy hunting!

https://vimeo.com/473362397

Jen referred to a film called “WarGames” when she actually meant The War Game, a 1965 dramatization of nuclear warfare against England that the BBC withdrew from broadcast until 1985. It did not star Matthew Broderick or Ally Sheedy.

https://archive.org/details/TheWarGame_201405

She also sorta muffed the description of Ken Loach’s teleplay Cathy Come Home, which horrified the British public with its account of a homeless couple (to little material effect, according to Loach). This short article describes the production and draws from some of the news coverage of the time.

https://www.gale.com/intl/archives-explored/cathy-come-home-a-landmark-in-british-political-television

Also, “If you know what’s good for you…Weetabix!”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNanhjGs6rQ

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Bitter Karella returns to fight Tim on the merits (or lack thereof) of cult 80s sci-fantasy film Krull! Krull hit screens in 1983 and failed to make its money back, although it is beloved by the kind of people who liked Ready Player One.

For exhaustive contemporary coverage on Krull, visit the Internet Archive’s scanned copy of Starlog issue 76.

https://archive.org/details/starlog_magazine-076/page/n51/mode/2up?view=theater

Special effects makeup artist Nick Maley seemed to enjoy making the film, judging by his reminisces.

https://web.archive.org/web/20020331025842/http://1001resources.com/hosting/users/cinesecrets/pmKrull-Intro.html

One valiant effort to market the movie: Krull-themed weddings! To our knowledge, none of the brides or grooms have come forward to admit to their participation. But it's hard to see how the movie missed with marketing concepts this good:

‘One [marketing gimmick] suggests approaching the local bakery about creating special pastries in the shape of the Glaive and dubbing them the punny ‘Krullers’. “Everyone knows what a cruller is…a tasty glazed donut. Now comes the Kruller…a tasty Glaived donut.’’'

-Tim Kirk via The Moving Arts Film Journal

https://web.archive.org/web/20100819044450/http://themovingarts.com/“krull”-weddings-the-awkward-teenage-years-of-movie-marketing/

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Tim and Jen return to Soviet filmmaker Pavel Klushantsev’s optimistic world of space exploration for 1962’s Planet of Storms!

ERRATA: Jen speculates in the episode about the reason for the lack of cultural impact the film made in the United States, but it turns out there's a good reason: Planet of Storms didn't arrive in the US in official and unadulterated form until some time in the 90s, on home video. As we mentioned, the film was cannibalized for two different American productions. One was Voyage to the Prehistoric Planet, with new footage directed by eventual New Queer Cinema trailblazer Curtis Harrington. The other, as we mentioned in the episode, was Voyage to the Planet of Prehistoric Women. They both suck.

The original film is available on YouTube with English subtitles. If you're curious about the 1955 Disney short Man in Space, you can watch it here, but you won't actually learn much about the historical origins of rocketry.

See photos of the actual Venusian surface captured by some of the unfortunate Soviet probes we mentioned. 

The Sally Ride tampon thing is true, by the way. 

If you missed our Road to the Stars episode, listen to it here! 

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Jen and Tim are astounded by one of the most pompous auteur statements ever made— Craig Denney’s The Astrologer from 1976!

The Astrologer had a theatrical run from at least 1976 through part of 1977, but was considered lost for many years. It eventually resurfaced in 2021 on YouTube. Paramount appears to have a copyright claim on the picture (amazing that they’d even want it), but that doesn’t mean it can’t be seen if you know where to look.

The story of auteur Craig Denney is as mysterious as it is surprising.Jim Vorel has a good rundown at Paste Magazine. Long story short, Denney made a bold play for notoriety, only to disappear sometime in the 80s. No one knows when he died, if he’s actually dead, or even his real birthdate! 

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