You may remember Emily Atkin from the first episode of The Politics of Everything, "Are Kids Bad for the Planet?" Emily has launched a new limited-run podcast, HEATED, that shows how Covid-19 and the climate crisis cannot be separated. Here is Episode 2 of HEATED.

On the show, The New Republic staff writer Kate Aronoff shares some creative policy solutions to the climate and pandemic crises. We couldn't help but notice that Washington has zero interest in creative policy right now. Quite the opposite: The fossil fuel and legacy polluters are clamoring for some of that sweet, sweet Covid-19 relief money, jamming their usual policy agenda while Republicans are shamelessly screaming that it’s “not the time” to talk about climate. This seems like a good moment to have a serious heart to heart with your congressional representatives.

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