“The UFO as evolutionary function, seeding new myths and meanings”
This from Kelly Chase. We discuss her recent essay, Unfurling the Myth. This is an exploration into the deepest mystery, and why it seems to present itself as myth—with transformation as its inevitable outcome.
Our previous conversation from January 2025 is essential listening, as well as Kelly’s reading of her insightful paper. Both are linked below.
<ul>
 <li>COSMOSIS—Kelly reads: Unfurling The Myth — Narrative as interface between Psyche and the field, <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cosmosis-formerly-the-ufo-rabbit-hole/id1595590107?i=1000722900314">HERE</a>
</li>
</ul>
<ul>
 <li>Episode 15. Kelly Chase-UFOs and the deeper self, <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hidden-experience-audio/id400825605?i=1000683123211">HERE</a>
</li>
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“The UFO as evolutionary function, seeding new myths and meanings” This from Kelly Chase. We discuss her recent essay, Unfurling the Myth. This is an exploration into the deepest mystery, and why it seems to present itself as myth—with transformation as its inevitable outcome. Our previous conversation from January 2025 is essential listening, as well as Kelly’s reading of her insightful paper. Both are linked below. COSMOSIS—Kelly reads: Unfurling The Myth — Narrative as interface between Psyche and the field, HERE Episode 15. Kelly Chase-UFOs and the deeper self, HERE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“The UFO as evolutionary function, seeding new myths and meanings”
This from Kelly Chase. We discuss her recent essay, Unfurling the Myth. This is an exploration into the deepest mystery, and why it seems to present itself as myth—with transformation as its inevitable outcome.
Our previous conversation from January 2025 is essential listening, as well as Kelly’s reading of her insightful paper. Both are linked below.
<ul>
 <li>COSMOSIS—Kelly reads: Unfurling The Myth — Narrative as interface between Psyche and the field,&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cosmosis-formerly-the-ufo-rabbit-hole/id1595590107?i=1000722900314" rel="noopener noreferrer">HERE</a>
</li>
</ul>
<ul>
 <li>Episode 15. Kelly Chase-UFOs and the deeper self,&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hidden-experience-audio/id400825605?i=1000683123211" rel="noopener noreferrer">HERE</a>
</li>
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21. Kelly Chase—Myth as Transformation

Mel Fabregas from VERITAS Radio has an odd owl experience within minutes of finalizing our audio interview for his site. I don't know why this post is dated 2009—it would have been posted sometime in March of 2016, shortly after the publication of THE MESSENGERS. 
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Mel Fabregas from VERITAS Radio has an odd owl experience within minutes of finalizing our audio interview for his site. I don't know why this post is dated 2009—it would have been posted sometime in March of 2016, shortly after the publication of THE MESSENGERS. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mel Fabregas from VERITAS Radio has an odd owl experience within minutes of finalizing our audio interview for his site. I don't know why this post is dated 2009—it would have been posted sometime in March of 2016, shortly after the publication of THE MESSENGERS.&nbsp;
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Mel Fabregas comments about our interview (short post)

The focus of these audio interviews is the deeply personal impact of UFO contact. Each episode features in-depth conversations with researchers, experiencers, and visionaries—all exploring the UFO mystery. This series has been a labor of love. New episodes are being added every month. There is a Patreon option with the same name, hosting special content for members. The show is hosted by Mike Clelland, the author of four books: The Messengers, Stories from The Messengers, Hidden Experience, and The Unseen. All are available as audiobooks.



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The focus of these audio interviews is the deeply personal impact of UFO contact. Each episode features in-depth conversations with researchers, experiencers, and visionaries—all exploring the UFO mystery. This series has been a labor of love. New episodes are being added every month. There is a Patreon option with the same name, hosting special content for members. The show is hosted by Mike Clelland, the author of four books: The Messengers, Stories from The Messengers, Hidden Experience, and The Unseen. All are available as audiobooks. SpectreVision Radio is a bespoke podcast network at the intersection between the arts and the uncanny, featuring a tapestry of shows exploring the anomalous, the luminous, and the numinous. We’re a community for creators and fans vibrating around common curiosities, shared interests and persistent passions. ⁠spectrevisionradio.com⁠ ⁠linktr.ee/spectrevision⁠

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