The full conversation can be heard on episode 152 of 'The Creative Condition' podcast.

Then he saw a tweet advertising a vacancy for the national Fiji rugby 7s job. With twenty minutes to accept or decline the role, he listened to his raging instincts and set out on one of the all-time great sporting stories, taking them, through countless challenges, to an Olympic gold medal at the 2016 Rio Olympic Games.

Ben shares the mind-bending story, his valuable insights to human empowerment, tips for adapting to adversity, and why it's vital to establish the right conditions for creativity and happiness to flourish in and around us.