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Brad interviews Zach Mack, host of NPR's Alternate Realities. Zach shares his personal journey with his father, who became radicalized by online conspiracy theories and New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) prophecies. Through a unique bet involving 10 conspiracy predictions, Zach and his father navigated their relationship, exploring the reasons behind his father's beliefs while growing closer despite differing worldviews. The conversation delves into the mechanics of online radicalization, the role of religious prophets like Julie Green, and the impact on family dynamics. Zach's story highlights the challenges and complexities of engaging with loved ones consumed by misinformation.

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