Frankie and Jess

“Holding Space: A Conversation with Death Doula Niki DiGaetano”


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In this powerful episode, we sit down with Death Doula Niki DiGaetano — a storyteller, listener, and compassionate guide who supports individuals and families through the end-of-life journey.

Niki shares the experience that shaped her calling: a hospice patient she grew close to, continued visiting as a friend, and ultimately lost. That connection opened her heart to grief work and helped her realize that listening — truly listening — is one of the greatest gifts we can offer.


We explore:

  • What a death doula does
  • The emotional and spiritual side of end-of-life care
  • The healing power of storytelling
  • Why presence matters more than fixing
  • How grief work is grounded in witnessing, not judgment

  • If you want to learn more about Niki and her work, here are the links she shared:

    📍 Instagram: Numbereddays.doula

    🌐 Website: Numbered-days.com

    📧 Email: [email protected]

    📝 Newsletter: Nikielle.substack.com (essays on death work & her outdoors adventures)

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