Podcast guest 1212 are Ronald C. Meyer and John V. Stone. John V. Stone had an intense awakening experience while on a retreat which completely changed his view of himself and the world. That experience opened the door to many other experiences of altered states and encounters with the divine which continue to this day. Ronald Meyer owns a film production company Centre Communications. He has produced and Directed feature films, including the first feature film for discovery communications “legend of the spirit dog “He is author of two novels with Mark Reeder, and two other novels, their latest being “Aliens 2035: The End of Technology”. Recently he produced the number one streaming documentary series on Amazon prime about serial killers.