Jennie sits down with her longtime friends Gabe and Rebekah Lyons for a raw and redemptive conversation about marriage. In their new book The Fight for Us, the Lyons open up about their 28 years of marriage—the early diagnosis of their son’s Down syndrome, unspoken pain, their different conflict styles, and what nearly tore them apart. But they also share what brought them back together: humility, rhythms of connection, and the courage to fight for each other instead of against.

This episode is packed with tools for healing, hope for the hurting, and a big reminder: marriage doesn’t have to be stuck. It can be resurrected.

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