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We’re not quite done with Warriors’ Punchgate, and I’ll seize on any reason to speak with independent GSW-centric podcasters Andy Liu and Saam Esfandiari. In this episode, we discuss:

* Draymond and The Punch

* Is the Bay Area media soft? Compared to what?

* Toy Story is like Draymond/Poole

* Why it was tough for a media startup to get a foothold in LA

* My own conflicts of interest and how they intersect with a Klutch story

* Andy talks about “Podmond” Green

* Saam’s take: Was Barry Bonds a bigger star in his day than Steph Curry in his day?

* Andy hates weed, is the anti-KD

* Did the league back LeBron over Steph? How’d it go?

* Can the NBA make new household names or are those days gone?