Independent School Moonshot Podcast

How Demand-Side Strategy Sharpens the Job You’re Hired to Do


Listen Later

How do families really decide to hire your school?


This conversation with Tim Fish, Founder and President of two chairs studio, cuts through assumptions and offers a clear framework any school can use to understand parent motivation and sharpen strategic priorities.


Tim shares the origins of Jobs to Be Done research by the National Association of Independent Schools, explains the four core parent jobs, and shows how schools can apply a demand-side mindset to strategic planning.


Independent school leaders will walk away with practical ways to reduce enrollment friction, design meaningful experiences, and differentiate their value in crowded markets.


This episode offers both insight and immediate application for heads, enrollment leaders, and boards.


What You'll Learn from Tim Fish:


  1. Parent decisions follow four Jobs to Be Done: Each reflects context, struggle, and desired progress, not personality.
  2. Jobs shift as family context changes: Parents reconsider their job at every re-enrollment cycle.
  3. Push, pull, anxiety, and habit shape every enrollment choice: Understanding these forces strengthens your strategy.
  4. Differentiation comes from intentional design: Move beyond generic claims and clarify what makes your experience distinct.
  5. Listening beats assuming: Deep interviews and AI-supported analysis reveal real motivations.

Recommended Next Steps


  1. Conduct Jobs-style interviews: Record stories from newly enrolled families explaining why they chose your school.
  2. Map push-pull forces: Identify the anxieties and habits that prevent families from enrolling.
  3. Clarify your true performance attributes: Define what your school does exceptionally well.
  4. Review re-enrollment experiences: Ask families what success and failure look like after the first year.
  5. Use AI to analyze patterns: Feed interview transcripts into AI tools to identify recurring themes.
...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

Independent School Moonshot PodcastBy Peter Baron

  • 5
  • 5
  • 5
  • 5
  • 5

5

5 ratings


More shows like Independent School Moonshot Podcast

View all
This American Life by This American Life

This American Life

91,038 Listeners

Fresh Air by NPR

Fresh Air

38,442 Listeners

Hidden Brain by Hidden Brain, Shankar Vedantam

Hidden Brain

43,548 Listeners

Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me! by NPR

Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me!

38,917 Listeners

Pivot by New York Magazine

Pivot

9,611 Listeners

The Daily by The New York Times

The Daily

112,630 Listeners

Member Voices by audio podcast by NAIS

Member Voices

21 Listeners

Up First from NPR by NPR

Up First from NPR

56,639 Listeners

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett by DOAC

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

8,603 Listeners

Worklife with Adam Grant by TED

Worklife with Adam Grant

9,155 Listeners

Consider This from NPR by NPR

Consider This from NPR

6,404 Listeners

A Bit of Optimism by Simon Sinek

A Bit of Optimism

2,196 Listeners

The Ezra Klein Show by New York Times Opinion

The Ezra Klein Show

16,051 Listeners

The Mel Robbins Podcast by Mel Robbins

The Mel Robbins Podcast

19,835 Listeners

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis by PHD Ventures

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis

544 Listeners