The star of The Smashing Machine has long built his movie career on a philosophy of "audience first," which has led him to immense levels of Hollywood success, but also a nagging feeling somewhere deep in his chest that he could do more. Now that he's pulled off his transformation into MMA fighter Mark Kerr, and his behind-the-scenes collaboration with Benny Safdie, he joins me this week to talk about what else might be next.

This is the first of several special Saturday bonus episodes we'll be running through mid-January — enjoy the extra conversations!

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