META PERFORMANCE SHOW | In this episode, Jason Jaggard sits down with co-founder of Pixar Animation Studios and New York Times Best-Selling Author Ed Catmull. 

Ed, quite simply, is responsible for the Renaissance Age of Animation. Walking us through his early days of being introduced to the process of creating animated stories, he details how his team was pushing the boundaries of what was technologically possible in that space as often as possible. One thing Ed shares as a part of this success was the team he put around him, holding steadfast that “getting the right people and the right chemistry is more important than getting the right idea”. 

That said, this idea was a really good one: in the process of developing this technology into what we know today as Pixar, something big happened - he met a man named Steve Jobs. Ed speaks to his 45-year working relationship with Steve, including his initial investment in Pixar itself, how people get him “wrong”, and what leadership skills he still incorporates to this day thanks to that relationship. 

This was an incredibly motivational conversation from a pioneer at the intersection of technology and entertainment; we hope you enjoy the show! 

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We want to give a special thank you to the crew for this episode. Christine Apa was our Producer, Casey Skinner was our Story and Video Editor, Robb Gilligan was our Sound Editor and Mixer, and thank you to our Videographers, Tri Nguyen and Ian Albert, and to Elle Sassenrath and Tower 33 for VFX Production, and to the Rainbow Creative Production team, Producers Matthew Jones and Stephen Selnick and Audio Editor Jeremy Davidson.