If you have been following us for any length of time, then you know Mark and I are passionate about marriage. Our own marriage went through a dark crisis about 10 years ago, which is an experience we are really open about. However, it is often hard to find other couples who are open about their own story and struggles. That’s why I’m honored to share today’s episode.

This is a conversation that Mark and I had with Ryan and Kristin Eller. They aren’t speakers or authors; they are everyday folks that have been through something hard and came out the other side of it together. Whether or not your own marriage has been affected by infidelity, I know everyone can benefit from the wisdom Ryan and Kristin have learned through their journey.

In this episode, you’ll hear:

• The importance of building intimacy in marriage
• How your community has a vital role in supporting your marriage
• Why you should care about sports teams, office drama, and hobbies
• Why there is still hope in your situation

I am so grateful for Ryan and Kristin’s openness in this episode. Take some time to listen in!

Show Notes: https://jillsavage.org/ryan-kristin-eller-105/

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