In this episode of In Search of More, I sit down with Ryan for an unfiltered conversation about money - not how to make it, but how to live with it.

We explore the ways we lose ourselves in our relationship with money. Merging our identity with it. Trying to control it. Withdrawing and pretending it doesn’t matter. None of these paths lead to peace, and most of us move between one, two or all three of these.

We talk about how fear dresses up as responsibility, control disguises itself as wisdom, and why avoiding money is often bypass, not holiness. We get into what building a vessel for money truly means.

This isn’t a conversation about getting rich. It’s about staying whole while in relationship with money without letting it define us or drain us.

See you on the other side,

Eli