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How Poetry Can Enhance Our Knowledge of Cosmology with Joseph Conlon [Ep. 471]


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How should we communicate big ideas? How do science and poetry differ in their communication of knowledge? And can poetry enhance our understanding of cosmology? 


Today, I’m joined by the renowned theoretical physicist and author of the thought-provoking book “Origins,” Joseph Conlon. In his book, Joseph reveals the origins of our universe through two long-form poems. With his extensive expertise in cosmology and philosophical thought, he sheds light on how the language of science not only explains the cosmos but also inspires us to reflect on the deeper meanings behind the laws that govern it. We also dive deep into string theory, string theory alternatives, and the current state of physics. 


Tune in to learn more about the intersection of poetry and science!



Key Takeaways: 


  • 00:00 Intro
  • 00:50 How science and poetry communicate
  • 04:10 Judging a book by its cover
  • 07:04 How can poetry enhance our understanding of cosmology?
  • 08:26 Why are physicists condescending to art? 
  • 10:35 Elements and structures in Origins 
  • 15:27 String theory and string theory alternatives 
  • 22:27 String theory, extra dimensions, and dark matter
  • 28:12 The philosophy of science and science communication 
  • 32:16 How AI is changing education and art
  • 34:30 Whitman or Feynman? 
  • 38:40 Joseph’s personal journey with physics and poetry 
  • 40:49 Outro

  • Additional resources: 


    ➡️ Learn more about Joseph Conlon:


    📱 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-conlon-338aaa23/ 

    đź“š Origins: https://amzn.eu/d/2hybmbq


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