What does it actually mean for a state’s revenue to ‘dry up’? Who’s paying for coronavirus testing sites? How are states working together -- and how are they competing? There’s never been a more important time to understand state and local government, as states have become the political, logistical, and moral center of the US's pandemic response.

On this episode Sarah talks with Rhode Island General Treasurer Seth Magaziner. In addition to being a key player in his state's response to this crisis, he’s also an incredible translator of complex legal and financial issues, and of how they affect the lives of everyday Americans. It's a crash course in state politics and finance, and it couldn't come at a better time.

You can read a transcript of this episode here: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1f18mNYo02GpdJUQOS6DdWqj0NkBaqg4M/view?usp=sharing]