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If you’ve been told that online retail growth means more ads, more automation, and more noise — this episode will quietly challenge that.
With thanks to this episode’s sponsor SumUp.
Get 10% off SumUp hardware with the code GamePlan10 at https://sumup.co.uk
I’m Catherine Erdly, and this is Resilient Retail Game Plan — practical product business advice with a healthy dose of reality.
This isn’t about scaling fast or chasing the latest ecommerce tactic.
It’s about building an online business that actually works for the people running it.
In this episode, I’m joined by Sarah Simonds, founder of Artichoke and winner of Online Shop of the Year at the Boutique Star Awards.
Sarah runs an online fashion business in a way most people would say doesn’t scale.
She calls every new online customer.
She designs systems to protect customer service, not replace it.
And she focuses relentlessly on a demographic the industry largely ignores.
After 25 years working with retailers, I see this pattern again and again.
The businesses that perform best long term aren’t always the loudest or the most automated. They’re the clearest.
In this conversation, we explore:
We also talk about the less glamorous side of growth — becoming the bottleneck, building resilience into the team, and creating structure so the business doesn’t rely on one person holding everything together.
If you run a product business and want online sales that feel sustainable rather than exhausting, this episode will give you a lot to think about.
Chapters00:00 Why “more marketing” isn’t always the answer
03:10 Serving an ignored customer demographic
06:20 Calling every new online customer
10:45 Reducing returns and increasing lifetime value
15:30 From pop-ups to online growth
21:10 Removing the founder bottleneck
27:40 Systems, structure, and ClickUp
33:30 Using AI without losing the human touch
41:50 Community, collaboration, and long-term growth
LinksArtichoke: https://www.artichoke-online.co.uk
Retail by Design: https://www.resilientretailclub.com/retail-by-design
Catherine’s book — Tame Your Tiger: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1912300096
Resilient Retail Club: https://www.resilientretailclub.com
Enjoying the show?
DM your takeaways or questions to @resilientretailclub on Instagram.
And if the podcast’s useful, please follow, rate, and review — it helps more product businesses find us.
By Resilient Retail Club's Catherine Erdly5
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If you’ve been told that online retail growth means more ads, more automation, and more noise — this episode will quietly challenge that.
With thanks to this episode’s sponsor SumUp.
Get 10% off SumUp hardware with the code GamePlan10 at https://sumup.co.uk
I’m Catherine Erdly, and this is Resilient Retail Game Plan — practical product business advice with a healthy dose of reality.
This isn’t about scaling fast or chasing the latest ecommerce tactic.
It’s about building an online business that actually works for the people running it.
In this episode, I’m joined by Sarah Simonds, founder of Artichoke and winner of Online Shop of the Year at the Boutique Star Awards.
Sarah runs an online fashion business in a way most people would say doesn’t scale.
She calls every new online customer.
She designs systems to protect customer service, not replace it.
And she focuses relentlessly on a demographic the industry largely ignores.
After 25 years working with retailers, I see this pattern again and again.
The businesses that perform best long term aren’t always the loudest or the most automated. They’re the clearest.
In this conversation, we explore:
We also talk about the less glamorous side of growth — becoming the bottleneck, building resilience into the team, and creating structure so the business doesn’t rely on one person holding everything together.
If you run a product business and want online sales that feel sustainable rather than exhausting, this episode will give you a lot to think about.
Chapters00:00 Why “more marketing” isn’t always the answer
03:10 Serving an ignored customer demographic
06:20 Calling every new online customer
10:45 Reducing returns and increasing lifetime value
15:30 From pop-ups to online growth
21:10 Removing the founder bottleneck
27:40 Systems, structure, and ClickUp
33:30 Using AI without losing the human touch
41:50 Community, collaboration, and long-term growth
LinksArtichoke: https://www.artichoke-online.co.uk
Retail by Design: https://www.resilientretailclub.com/retail-by-design
Catherine’s book — Tame Your Tiger: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1912300096
Resilient Retail Club: https://www.resilientretailclub.com
Enjoying the show?
DM your takeaways or questions to @resilientretailclub on Instagram.
And if the podcast’s useful, please follow, rate, and review — it helps more product businesses find us.

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