How to lead by example and help the planet- what's more important than taking care of your home (Earth)? Debra sits down with biological resource engineer Bobby Gill to talk about the realities of the climate crisis and practical ways we can all help Mother Earth.

Bobby speaks about the importance of "voting with your dollar" and the importance of environmental legislation. Our home, and the future of the planet, are on the line.

From an Astrological perspective, Bobby didn't know about Astrology; tune in to hear Debra translate his chart, easily pinpointing his innate nature. Bobby shares reflections of Debra's Astrological insights and reflects on his Saturn return and the popularity of Astrology.

Bobby shares how he believes society is reinventing itself from a "dying way of living." Tune in for an inspiring conversation around the climate crisis, learn about desertification, and get clues into the nature of a Capricorn and Sagittarius energy.

Key Highlights From The Episode

• How to lead by example and help the planet with small efforts that can have a big impact

• Understanding the process of desertification and its importance in the climate conversation

• Seeing an optimistic future after the planet being in "hospice"

• Voting with your dollar and the government's part in the climate crisis

• How Capricorn and Sagittarius energy can show up in a personality

Timestamps

[01:00] Introducing the I Don't Believe In Astrology Podcast and an introduction of our guest, Bobby Gill

[02:45] How Debra and Bobby met and Debra's entrance into being literate around the climate crisis

[03:50] Bobby's familiarity with Astrology and Debra deciphering his natal chart

[05:45] Bobby speaks to the relevance of his adventure-seeking nature as told by his Astrological chart

[06:25] Bobby tells us about working at the Savory Institute and its mission

[08:13] An explanation of desertification and how the Savory Institute helps to teach communities

[12:15] A controversial thought within the climate crisis debate

[14:28] Debra and Bobby share their thoughts about an incredible film, To Which We Belong, by Pamela Tanner Boll

[17:43] The doom and gloom of the climate crisis, and the optimism around the corner

[20:11] The reality of the climate crisis from Bobby's perspective

[24:11] One of the things Bobby is most worried about as we navigate the changes ahead

[26:10] Debra speaks to being passionate about our life's work and taking the long view into account

[27:52] How will the government come into play with supporting environmental legislation?

[28:37] Bobby shares about "voting with your dollar" and other things individuals can do with the environment in mind

[31:25] Thoughts on the use of plastics and the conveniences we have grown accustomed to

[33:01] Debra encourages the audience to be conscious of their choices

[35:31] Reflecting on Bobby's lack of the Air element in his chart

[36:38] How Bobby's Earth and Fire in his Astrological chart shows up so prominently in his demeanor

[37:33] What Bobby would be talking about if he wasn't talking about regenerative agriculture

[38:00] One thing Bobby couldn't live without

[38:20] The last time that Bobby cried

[38:52] Who, across time and history, Bobby would have a conversation with if he could

[39:20] What's next that Bobby is so excited about

[40:05] The emergence of Astrology into the current collective mindset

[40:55] The value Astrology can provide from Bobby's perspective

[42:00] Debra asks Bobby about his Saturn return

[43:38] Thanking Bobby for his time on the podcast and Debra's hope to ignite interest in Astrology and the climate crisis