Overview
How to wake up inside the dream and find that what’s beyond this life is our true reality; what we think is reality is a genuine “altered state.”
In this episode of the I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast, Debra introduces Andrew Holecek, an author and spiritual teacher. As a long-time student of Buddhism, he frequently presents this tradition from a contemporary perspective – blending the ancient wisdom of the East with modern knowledge from the West.
Drawing on years of intensive study and practice, Andrew teaches on the opportunities that exist in obstacles, helping people with hardship and pain, death and dying, and problems in meditation.
Andrew and Debra dive right into a deeply philosophical yet accessible conversation as they discuss low-form darkness as the extraordinary force of karma, the mind's various dimensions, and pathways to enlightenment and spiritual introspection.
Debra shares her deep appreciation and respect for how Andrew’s work has changed her life and Andrew echoes the same, drawing on his colossal takeaways from his Astrological reading and how it has changed his perspective and belief in Astrology, and his powerful 4E session where Debra felt witnessed him “break the code” of the Water Element.
Tune in for an incredible conversation that will inspire you to think beyond perceived reality, find more joy, and accept sadness as a pathway to compassion.
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Watch Debra’s interview on Edge of Mind with Andrew Holecek here: https://bit.ly/edgeofmindwithdebra
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Key Highlights From The Episode
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How to wake up inside the dream and discover there is so much more to our perceived reality
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How Andrew’s gift is to help us all rewrite the story of death
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Defining the different dimensions and constructs of the ego and the mind that can sometimes work against us
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The principles and lessons of love and death and their intersection between Andrew’s work and Debra’s work with Astrology and the Elements
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Andrew gives formal structure to how to hear, contemplate, and meditate
Timestamps
[2:31] Introducing the I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast with special guest, Andrew Holecek
[03:08] The synchronicity of how Debra met Andrew Holecek and how Andrew’s work has impacted Debra’s life
[5:12] Andrew introduces himself
[6:52] Bringing up Andrew’s Astrological chart and Debra sharing her interpretation and its connection to Andrew
[8:57] How Andrew’s life’s work is to help us rewrite the story of death
[10:04] Defining the different dimensions of the mind
[11:08] “Ego cannot attend its own funeral.”
[11:56] Debra shares a secret of what has happened to her recently and the details around it
[13:30] Musings on our dream time and the manifestation of mind
[17:00] Is it true that time goes on forever in every direction? Andrew shares his thoughts and connects it to our experiences in the dream world and “altered states”
[18:44] If the human condition has a limited operating system and yet there is another angle waiting for us, what does this closed system serve?
[23:05] Debra shares about Andrew’s 4E session and how Andrew cracked the code of the Water Element
[25:30] Getting into the deep end of the pool of spiritual practice
[26:51] One of the deepest wounds of Saturn in Scorpio
[27:15] Understanding what “love” is
[28:21] Love and death in Andrew’s work and Astrology, plus Debra’s personal experience
[29:25] A Tibetan language lesson on meditation, openness, and love
[31:11] A statistic on how our unconscious mind affects our lives and its connection to how Debra’s work has shifted Andrew’s perspective completely
[32:54] The Mercury and Mars connection in Andrew’s chart, his work with lucid dreaming, and his gift to all of us in Debra’s words of gratitude
[36:02] Remembrance versus learning and explaining “trickle down spirituality”
[38:15] When did the conversation of reincarnation enter the dialogue of the Buddhist?
[39:15] Debra’s invitation to everyone in reaching true awakening, what led to the Buddha’s awakening and its connection to death
[42:14] Practicing meditation, contemplation, and studying- the innocence of curiosity
[43:27] Andrew gives formal structure to how to hear, contemplate, and meditate
[45:35] Debra ties Andrew’s philosophical perspective and internalization back to his Astrological chart
[46:18] The telepathic and other-wordly downloading in “altered states”
[46:46] Bringing ourselves back to Earth when we are up and out
[48:01] Andrew shares about his deep interest and practice in the dark and darkness retreat
[49:08] Reflections on AI not having our best interest and Andrew’s work in that field
[50:16] What provides Andrew with his joy factor and the connection to humor and Water
[51:21] Beyond the “sh!tshow” of how things appear
[52:54] What keeps the lower phase dark side so seductive? What happens when you’re no longer seduced by the “display”
[54:34] What Debra noticed about enlightenment and this existence and Andrew’s thoughts on differentiating depression versus sadness
[56:09] How engaging with sadness creates ripples of compassion and the essence of spiritual bypassing
[58:00] How Astrology helps you fall in love with you and a recap of the major components of Andrew’s Astrological chart
[58:55] Debra’s encouragement for everyone to read Andrew’s book, Preparing to Die
[59:28] Debra shares her gratitude for Andrew with reflections of her own human condition, and the opportunity we all have to be the one we seek
[1:00:29] The Sun sign of the United States is Cancer; reflections on transitions in an election season
[1:00:59] Andrew shares his deep gratitude for Debra’s work and where to find his work
