The I Don't Believe in Astrology Podcast

How to receive your inner riches, whether or not the outer world matches. Debra sits down with Preston Smiles, conscious businessman, trailblazer, personal freedom coach, experiential speaker, author, and "badass messenger of love," sharing the formula for living more fully and fulfilled.

If you're not happy with how abundance shows up in your life right now, give this interview a listen to be steeped in appreciation for the riches in your life and wisdom for getting out of your head and into your true essence. Do you have the courage to listen beyond your mind? Do you know the power of deep listening?

Preston shares his personal experiences with his capacity for deep listening- how it has led to catalytic moments in his life, from "profane to the profound" as he describes. Preston tells an incredible story about intuitive nudges he received while in New York City that lead him to play a part in a perspective-changing event.

Debra explains the roles Preston's Mercury in Cancer and Cancer Rising play in his connection to intuition, as well as musings on his double Fire energetics and the reason the Astrological theme Preston has picked up on makes so much sense based on his Astrological chart.

Learn more about Preston, his daily mantra, and his messages of love, all echoed by Debra's remarks on being open to perspectives beyond the constructs of your mind, the universal human wound, and a challenge to us all… be ready to receive!

Find Preston on Instagram: @prestonsmiles

See Preston and Debra LIVE for Debra's upcoming virtual Astrological Immersion August 21st-25th, with a closing call on August 28th. Sign up to be amongst the first to get your free seat here: astrologicalimmersion.com

• How to open yourself up to receive your inner riches

• The power of deep listening and how it can manifest into profound life moments and lessons

• How Preston identified an Astrological theme in his life that Debra had the explanation for

• The shifts that gratitude and saying "yes to the yes" can have in your life

• The mantras that Preston and Debra start their day with and how it helps them experience life beyond the small constructs of the human mind

[01:02] Introduction of Preston Smiles and The I Don't Believe In Astrology Podcast

[02:04] Preston's introduction

[03:43] How moving back in his with his mother helped Preston change the dynamics of his life

[04:30] Growing up as an underdog

[06:23] Debra shows Preston's chart and the validation of his life lesson of Saturn in Virgo, his double Fire energetics, and his compassionate Cancer Rising

[07:43] Preston echoes the accuracy of Debra notating the Virgo life lesson themes in his life

[08:51] Debra discusses the beginnings of this podcast and asks Preston what his sense is about the future

[10:18] Preston shares about his vision quest, or vision fast as he calls it, and his reflections from the experience

[14:01] Debra shares her one directive she hopes people receive from this podcast

[14:28] Debra shares more about the major Astrological components of Preston's chart

[15:12] Debra shares her thoughts on choosing your parents in this lifetime

[16:57] Preston shares about a medical condition that shook him to his core and changed everything, and inevitably led to his life's work

[21:43] Echoing part of Preston's story of coming into his full self, Debra shares a permission slip from the Age of Aquarius

[22:49] Preston shares his gratitude for this life and how he has "said yes to the yes"

[23:56] Preston details an incredible story about listening to his intuition

[32:07] Debra reflects on Preston's story, the power of deep listening, and Debra's pact with spirit for her life's work

[33:25] Debra's story about being in meditation and listening to a directive from spirit, then initiating an uncomfortable conversation with a friend of the past

[34:39] You don't need someone else to forgive you and you can be the doula or healer

[35:10] Debra demonstrates the manifestation of Preston's Mercury in Cancer

[35:30] Debra's challenge to all of us and Preston echoes her sentiments

[36:45] The last time Preston cried and breaking the cycle of his unsupportive beliefs

[39:45] The universal wound of not feeling worthy and the call to find compassion for the human condition (check out Debra's book, The Missing Element)

[42:11] Preston's early morning mantra

[43:44] The message Preston always receives during plant ceremony

[44:10] What Debra wants to everyone to take in through this podcast

[45:05] Debra's waking thoughts each day

[45:59] The truth about us all

[47:22] The moment-to-moment love affair of being an adult

[48:02] Preston talks about the manifestation of our dreams and the sacrifices they may bring

[49:02] Preston being a modern-day spiritual master

[50:31] Your agreement at a higher level of consciousness

[51:40] Debra summarizes the message of this podcast

[52:52] How to find and work with Preston

[54:25] The call once more to learn how to listen deeply to your intuition and to spirit

Learning how to understand your dreams can help you connect to the language of your soul and the spirit world. Our dream time is sacred, and there are benevolent messages even in our scariest nightmares. Debra sits with Athena Laz, Spiritual Dream Teacher, Depth Psychologist, and author of The Alchemy of Your Dreams and The Deliberate Dreamer's Journal, to discuss the powerful root of your dreams and their messages.

Athena explains that everyone dreams, and everyone has the ability to create a deeper connection to their dream world and intuition, enhancing our connection to nature, the collective, and ultimately our own souls.

Debra describes how Athena's Astrological chart points exactly to Athena's life work, and Athena echoes Debra's Astrological interpretations with excitement and an enthusiastic interest in joining Debra's Applied Astrology school.

Tune into this episode to learn more about the connection between dreaming and major collective events (like the pandemic and natural disasters), what repetitive dreams really mean, and what practices you can start to better understand your dreams and expand the horizons of your dream world and intuition.

Find Athena on Instagram: @athena_laz

Get a copy of Athena's book, The Alchemy of Your Dreams: https://amzn.to/3JsCxUP

Start your dream journaling journey with Athena's The Deliberate Dreamer's Journal: https://amzn.to/3NKUws6

• How to understand your dreams to connect to the language of your soul and the spirit world

• How a dream journaling practice will enhance your dream world

• The mere practice of putting your awareness on the potential of your dream experience can increase your dream frequency, even for those people that don't remember their dreams

• Athena's first experience with Astrology and her renewed interest in the subject as evidenced by her excitement around Debra's interpretation of her Astrological chart and enrolling in Debra's Applied Astrology school

• The nature of precognitive dreams and the benevolent interpretation of nightmares

[00:50] Introduction of the subject matter of this podcast episode

[01:28] Does Athena believe in Astrology? Her experience with her first reading

[01:58] Athena's introduction

[04:09] Athena's drawing the connection between dreams, climate consciousness, and the pandemic

[07:09] When Pluto was discovered and the connection to the Death card in Tarot

[07:54] Debra and Athena share their dreams about tsunamis

[08:35] Anxiety arising as a societal symptom amidst radical change

[10:01] A big theme of Athena's Astrological chart shows her as the futurist

[10:18] Debra sharing a story about a child dreaming of disaster the night before the September 11th attacks, and a precognitive dream Debra had not long after that

[11:30] Athena explains precognitive or prophetic dreaming and the importance of a dream journaling practice

[13:24] Debra shares and discusses Athena's Astrological chart, describing Athena's connection to her work

[15:09] Athena's affirmation of Debra's interpretation of her Astrological chart

[15:26] Athena answers Debra's question about what the difference is between those who have a rich dream world and those who don't remember their dreams

[18:00] Who is giving us messages in our dreams?

[19:16] Debra sharing a dream of a deceased loved one and the showing of her shadow

[21:05] How Athena has interpreted dreams for others and aims to teach people how to do it for themselves

[21:43] Debra shares some of her own experience with dream interpretation

[22:28] How dream interpretation theories can be too prescriptive and the importance of maintaining the perspective of your own intuition

[23:55] The range of dreaming viewpoints (Debra references Jung and Freud)

[24:13] Debra sharing a very obvious message from a "loud" dream of a client

[24:44] Debra speaks to the importance of writing dreams out and speaking the dreams out loud; Athena echoes those sentiments

[25:36] Athena shares a personal example of reframing a nightmare into a benevolent message

[28:04] The message behind repetitive dreams

[28:26] Carl Jung's dream perspective that helped Debra

[29:27] Debra asks Athena what she would be talking about all the time if she wasn't talking about dreams

[30:02] What Athena wishes people would

[30:13] What Athena couldn't live without

[30:48] Someone throughout history that Athena would love to have a conversation with if she could

[31:18] Athena shares her newer interest in the Tarot

[31:37] The last time Athena had a good cry

[33:03] Athena shares what she would change about herself if she could, and Debra connects that to Athena's Astrological chart

[32:37] Athena shares more about her Astrology experience and interest, and Debra invites her to Applied Astrology school!

[33:09] What Debra would be focusing on in this lifetime if she wasn't an Astrologer

[34:14] Debra shares her gratitude for Athena and her life's work, and Athena shares her gratitude for their serendipitous connection

How to see beyond fear and find wisdom when the future looks bleak should be a reason alone to listen to this podcast episode. Beyond that message, this interview is steeped in practical mysticism and science, understanding the evolution of the human species, and acceptance of the natural cycles of Earth.

Chemistry occurs seating our guest, Gene Keys founder Richard Rudd, in between Debra Silverman and Carla Johnson. The trio shares how they met and bounces effortlessly through a conversation about the fear culture of climate change and the importance of sinking into wisdom and faith in moments of angst and uncertainty.

Richard Rudd is an international spiritual teacher, writer and award-winning poet. In 2002 when he began to write and receive the Gene Keys – a vast synthesis exploring the miraculous possibilities inherent in human DNA. Richard shares the Gene Keys connection to our future and his views on how Astrology not only works, but can aid us in our transitions as we meet our next evolutionary point.

Carla Johnson is a geologist, hydrologist, environmental engineer, and entrepreneur, one of Debra's dearest friends, sharing a deep appreciation for Debra's method of Astrology.

Debra shares the Astrological connection between Richard and Carla, with Carla also chiming in about Richard's Saturn in Aries and how it translates into his purpose.

This is a conversation rooted in mysticism, science, radical honesty, and consciousness, with reminders of the importance of self-awareness, meditation, studying, intimacy, transition planning, and keeping your faith as we move towards our next evolution.

Find Richard on Instagram: @genekeys

Check out Richard's offerings: https://genekeys.com/debra-silverman/

Listen to Carla's IDBIA episode, Just a Page In Earth's Book :https://debrasilvermanastrology.com/podcast

• How to see beyond the fear and find wisdom in an unsettled world

• The difference between knowledge and wisdom

• How Richard's Gene Keys and Debra's method of Astrology work in tandem

• The imminence of cycles of extinction and evolution

• What we can do to help steady the Earth and steady ourselves (there is a connection!)

[01:11] Introduction of Richard Rudd and special bonus guest, Carla Johnson

[03:50] How and where Debra, Richard, and Carla all met

[04:39] The overview of Earth's history as told by Carla

[10:45] Do we need to be worried about the climate crisis? Richard Rudd shares his perspective

[14:20] What excites Debra about the future

[14:56] The timing of humans in Earth's history and the intellectual acceleration of humans

[16:11] An explanation of Gene Keys and the connection to our future

[18:22] Reaching points of paradox

[21:00] Carla shares fascinating facts demonstrating the connection between Earth and the human body

[22:35] A call to suspend your human mind

[23:40] The emotional body's resistance to believe greater wisdom and how Gene Keys supports breaking through that resistance

[26:24] The new awareness operating system we are moving towards and how Gene Keys and Astrology give you a road map and tools to get through to our next evolution

[28:47] How Debra says we all can make a difference with an open mind

[30:24] The Earth's intelligence and capacity to regenerate

[32:15] Lowering the planet's stress level

[34:06] The important thing to remember is nothing operates in isolation

[35:10] The air tight system of Astrological high roads and low roads and how de-evolution isn't possible

[36:33] Richard Rudd's chart reviewed

[38:42] The truth about the future citing predictive models

[42:25] The reminder of our need to carry humanity through the shifts to come

[43:29] Debra's unshakeable belief in Astrology and flowing through death and change

[45:51] How systems like Debra's method of Astrology and Richard's Gene Keys can give you back your faith

[46:40] The horrible truths of how this climate cycle will play out and what you can do

[48:39] Carla's upcoming book and the unsustainability of the current state of our lives

[50:34] The most sustainable unit of living

[51:13] How we will live in a sustainable future

[52:00] What it's like to be in the higher realm of your Gene Keys

[53:15] The future system will cherish you, but there is work to be done

[54:02] The answer to people who say they don't care of believe in climate change

[54:24] The power of wisdom over knowledge

[55:40] Ending with a call to keep your faith, and a nod to nothing but beginnings

*TRIGGER WARNING: eating disorders, body dysmorphia

How to be your most conscious self is the hack to living in better balance, to feeling better, to being healthier, and loving more deeply. Who would you be if you became the partner that you have always longed for?

The goal is to "marry yourself," as told by author, mentor, model, and transformational coach Nikki Sharp. Nikki is passionate about living a conscious and aware life, with her life's mission dedicated to helping others do the same. Nikki and Debra create a vulnerable, raw, yet uplifting dialogue around what self-care really means and the connection between how we treat our bodies and how we treat Earth.

Nikki Sharp does believe in Astrology; in fact, she shares her praise for Debra's method of Astrology in this episode. Debra breaks down the main components of Nikki's Astrological chart as described by her Big Three- Gemini Sun, Sagittarius Moon, and Leo Rising- alongside Nikki's Mercury in Cancer, as Nikki shares real-life examples of how these Astrological dynamics show up in her past, present, and future. Debra also speaks to the House that Nikki's Sun is in, which speaks to Nikki's non-traditionalist and futuristic energy, fused with the ability to synthesize information and bring it to the masses.

Both Nikki and Debra approach their life work with an emphasis on compassion and education yet leaving people with the ability to make their own choices, which creates heightened consciousness and awareness. Nikki shares how that plays out in her work as a nutritionalist and coach and Debra echoes that within her work with Astrology.

Tune in for an episode that is rich with wisdom around the ego, conscious living, Astrologically-connective stories from Nikki and Debra's pasts, and enlightening Gemini energy.

Find Nikki on Instagram: @nikkisharp

Check out Nikki's offerings: www.nikkisharp.com

• How to be your most conscious self and the connection to the mind and ego

• Nikki and Debra speak to the difference of how Debra's method of Astrology really makes the language click (learn more at appliedastrology.me)

• The state of our environment and society and the correlation to what and how we eat

• How the energetics around things, people, and thoughts play a big role in the way it affects us

• Examples of channeling and connection to higher power and wisdom

[01:34] Introduction of Nikki Sharp

[04:12] An overview of Nikki's books and her offerings

[05:24] Debra speaking to Nikki's Big Three (Sun, Moon, and Rising) and her full Astrological chart

[06:19] The stomach issues Nikki had in the past, related to the dominant Cancer energy in her chart

[08:04] Debra speaks to the correlation to what we do to our bodies and what we do to our Earth

[08:39] Where Nikki is at in life and how her self-healing has brought her to a better place

[09:18] Pulling up Nikki's Astrological chart

[9:58] Nikki speaking to her tattoos and how she is committed to speaking from a place of love

[10:51] Nikki's perspective on diet and the link to the climate crisis

[12:48] Speaking to Nikki's Mercury in Cancer

[13:38] A reflection from Debra's childhood

[14:24] Nikki speaks to state of humanity and the connection to our diets

[16:49] Debra's realization of being an example to others and helping others wake up

[17:47] How Nikki guides people with a new perspective in how we eat

[19:38] Coming back to Nikki's birth chart to talk about the House her Sun is in and how it has shown up for her in her past

[22:58] The real function of Leo and how Nikki has moved into her Leo Rising

[23:37] The story of Nikki putting her life's purpose onto paper

[28:05] Debra speaking more to Nikki's 11th House Sun as a non-traditionalist and futurist

[30:02] Debra's synapsis of Nikki's story as told by her Sun, Moon, and Rising

[31:19] Speaking to Nikki's intuition and how it shows up in her Astrological chart

[31:58] Debra shares part of the story of the creation of her Applied Astrology program and Tell Me A Story (TMAS)

[33:46] The importance of spirituality in Nikki's life

[34:58] Debra's insight into overcoming the ego and coming into success

[36:11] The worst thing we can ingest

[36:54] Debra's thoughts on minimalism met with Nikki's take on its connection to balance

[39:24] Nikki speaks to the origin of a food craving

[40:06] Debra and Nikki talk about sleep and the Ayurvedic explanation around our self-care cycles

[41:26] What Nikki is here to do in this lifetime, in her own words

[42:34] Another facet of what Debra does that brings her joy

[43:15] The hardest question about how we value our body and the body of Earth

[43:52] What Nikki tells her clients should be their goal

[44:41] Another way of explaining the manifestation of Nikki's Sun, Moon, and Rising

[44:58] Nikki shares a story about moving into a new place and the sign from beyond

[46:03] Nikki's COVID experience and her takeaway

[46:40] The meaning of Nikki's Progressed Moon in Pisces

[48:15] Nikki shares what her word of the year was

[48:27] Debra's reflection on the connection between Nikki's work and the environment

[48:53] How Nikki explains the root of what her teachings are and a fun way of looking at it

[49:46] Debra and Nikki share their gratitude for the connection with each other

[50:14] Debra shares a story of how she listened to her body

[50:59] Finishing with an important takeaway on energetics

[51:53] Nikki tells Debra about her Dream Binder and one of the visualization practices she uses in her work

[53:27] Nikki and Debra speak to the difference of how Debra's method of Astrology really makes the language click

[54:15] Debra asks: If Nikki wasn't talking about health and wellness, what would she be interested in?

[54:46] What Nikki wishes people would

[54:59] One thing Nikki can't live without

[55:03] Who Nikki would have a conversation with if she could

[55:29] The last time Nikki cried

[55:40] Ending the rapid fire questions with two Geminis signing off

How to learn through your suffering is a concept brought to us all through our karma.

Two things that seem to universally evoke feelings of uneasiness are our inner worlds and the future. What lies beneath the depths of our personalities and our behavioral patterns- the unknowns of our lineage and the roots of our imprints- and our karma is not to be feared, but revered. We are all beings of light, divinity embodied, with the ability to transcend the now into a brighter, sustainable, and spiritually evolved future.

That is the message of our guest, Rita Hraiz, whose mission and purpose is to embody and evoke the essence of our spiritual evolution. Rita supports people through grief and trauma, helping other to shamanically call back the places they have abandoned themselves, to heal addictions, to glimpse and then anchor wholeness in order to experience the great liberation that comes from finally being able to find a way off the emotional treadmill that keeps us locked on the wheel of illusion.

Rita and Debra have a friendship that has spanned decades; they share their remembrances of times past together and in the name of vulnerability they share some deeply personal and human experiences that have brought them to points of their spiritual awakening. As Rita voices through her Mercury in Aquarius and Gemini Rising, pain and suffering is here to pray into it, to bring about the light within us and around us.

This is a deeply transformational conversation, weaving through notions of our karma, past life remembrance, death, and navigating the noise factory that is our psyche to find stillness and our path towards greater purpose. Tune in as Rita and Debra have a very 8th House conversation with the thorough and exquisite excellence that Capricorn Rita embodies- you'll walk away lighter and enlightened.

• How to learn and pray through your suffering

• The transition of our humanity into "The Light Age" and the prophecies that support it

• The importance of balance in our lives and the ways the Universe nudges us for greater balance

• How Christ energy and the teachings of Buddhism have influenced Rita

• Rita's Astrology and transformational Saturn Return story

[01:52] Introduction of Rita Hraiz with background on her connection to Debra through the decades

[04:20] Debra's thoughts on destiny friendships and the connection she and Rita share

[05:24] The acknowledgment and invitation of spirit and the sacred

[06:26] Debra's prayer for openness

[06:50] Sharing Rita's Astrological chart

[08:04] Rita's entrance into life having function and purpose

[09:45] Rita stepping into the aspect of dharma and the pull between her 4th and 10th Houses in Astrology

[10:57] Rita's work and life mission

[12:27] Rita's Capricorn excellence and how Debra has seen Rita's growth over the years

[13:01] Debra and Rita's reflections on lineage and rituals

[14:43] Cutting through the delusions of this world

[16:49] Jumping into this lifetime as The Fool (Tarot card)

[17:40] The history of Tibet and the Tibetan people

[18:21] We are emanations in a dream spell

[19:25] The colored chakra featured on Rita's wall and the message it transmits

[20:40] The place beyond this place that exists in peace

[20:57] Debra's conversation with her son about the reality of our doom and gloom

[21:24] Rita speaks on embracing the suffering and its connection to telepathy

[22:06] The most unhealthy thing we can do in this lifetime

[22:51] Why Debra lives in Hawaii

[23:13] Are you soulful? Here are some clues

[23:34] The transition of our humanity and the prophecies that support it

[24:34] The opportunity COVID presented to all of us

[26:40] The importance of trust in this transition

[28:23] What we are being prepared for

[31:26] Debra's reflections on the ego and soul and Astrology as the evidence

[31:26] Debra's reflections on the ego

[32:47] The main takeaway from this podcast

[33:33] Thinking back to spiritual experiences 2,000 years ago to now and the next 2,000 years

[34:47] Can we invoke our greater light to be the guide?

[37:05] Rita's Saturn Return story

[44:26] Rita's prayer for people

[46:40] A note on mastery and studying Astrology

[47:39] Bodhisattva vow

[50:09] Praying into the suffering

[51:52] Debra shares about her recent dream of being a rebellious kid

[53:23] The truth of our mission of being here right now

[54:34] What Rita would not want to be without in this life

[56:10] Someone in history that Rita would love to have a heart-to-heart with

[57:58] "Who else am I madly in love with that I haven't met yet?"

[58:56] What Rita sees for the future

[1:00:14] Debra and Rita share thoughts on the climate crisis and our collective healing

[1:02:29] Rita's closing prayer

[1:03:53] Debra's closing remarks and sharing in gratitude with Rita

Your judgments are what you attract. It's a simple notion, yet a tough pill to swallow. What this perspective will gift to you is the knowing that your tough life lessons, your difficult circumstances, those relationships and scenarios that didn't work out- they're brought to you for your growth and ascension. In simpler terms, the release of judgment and the gratitude for the lesson is the key to leveling up your human experience.

Debra is joined by Robert Edward Grant- a successful entrepreneur, best-selling author of PHILOMATH, author of new release POLYMATH and pre-release Neuromined, inventor, founder of several corporate enterprises, and the host of Code X, an original television series on Gaia and Amazon Prime. He is an artist, sculptor, music theorist, musician, and author of numerous research and patent publications spanning biology, DNA combinatorics, number theory, geometry, and physics. He has lived in nine countries and fluently speaks Japanese, Korean, German and French. Robert's mission is to integrate innovation, mathematics, natural sciences, artistic design, and entrepreneurship into balanced creations intended to benefit all.

Robert walks Debra through some of his divinely-inspired works, along with the recurrent themes, messages, and lessons behind his own existence, as well as the existence of the collective. The duo then correlate these experiences to Robert's Astrological chart, as it highlights his visionary perspective, his passion for details and futurism, and his indelible draw towards mysticism and mystery.

From past life recollection to the oneness theory to the double-edged sword of the future, this episode spans an array of subjects, with key takeaways around the nature of the human mind's resistance towards the release of judgment and its relationship to the ultimate life achievement of unconditional love.

Tune into this podcast episode and walk away with tools to inspire a different viewpoint of your challenging life experiences, taking you one step closer to emotional and spiritual evolution.

• A shift in perspective around judgment

• Musings around the purpose and orchestration of our life's events

• Robert and Debra's honest and authentic thoughts on the oneness theory

• Robert's encounter which led him to his first recollection of a past life

• How do we access unconditional love?

[01:59] Introduction of Robert Edward Grant

[04:55] Debra jumps into Robert's chart

[06:15] Robert's never ending appetite to learn, as described by his Astrological chart

[07:42] Robert shows his advanced writings and drawings that were divinely inspired

[08:30] The unusual part of Robert's chart

[09:33] Robert's experience with sharing his knowledge and wisdom and his recent experience with being acknowledged for achievement

[10:55] Robert recalling major projects he has worked on and how his futuristic views showed up alongside his commitment to releasing limitation

[12:45] Robert shares his perspective on the climate crisis and the perfect variables that support our existence within the solar system

[15:12] What is the nature of our mind with regards to our limitations?

[16:07] Robert's work with Gene Keys and the synchronicity behind his personal number

[17:15] When Robert recalled his first memory of one of his past lives

[22:31] The visionary marker in Robert's Astrological chart

[23:26] Robert shares his story of being the catalyst for physicist Nassim Harame's departure from Kauai

[24:53] What Robert wishes people would be able to do

[25:45] The interesting place Robert found solace in during a personal crisis

[27:31] What Robert's experience being around "normal" people is like

[28:35] The nature of judgment and what you attract

[29:37] Robert's process in trusting the Universe, releasing his worries around mistakes and not becoming what he could become

[31:41] The last time Robert cried- a reflection of gratitude

[32:15] Robert's past work and the link to big shifts in idealism

[33:20] What Robert sees for the future

[35:00] The mirror world we live in

[35:13] A synapsis of Robert's chart and how Robert has navigated the emotional waves of the Water element

[36:10] Robert's early life and standout qualities from his childhood

[37:08] Back to Robert's chart, delving into his Saturn Return

[38:56] The common theme around all of Robert's life lessons and his musing about his "luck"

[39:57] Our life purpose as described by our divine assignments

[41:18] The realization about the orchestration of our life events

[41:40] Robert and Debra share their differences in perspective on the oneness theory

[43:50] What Robert wouldn't want to live without

[44:54] Robert's continuation of the relationship-oriented lessons in his life

[46:29] What Robert would change if he could and his intuitive perspective on the future

[47:55] The cycles of Earth and our need to be aware and prepared

[48:22] Debra's ending message for this podcast episode

[49:22] Robert's ending message for this podcast episode

[50:47] Debra's blessing to the podcast audience

[51:42] Debra's gratitude for her connection with Robert on this episode

[52:06] Robert's gratitude to Debra and Astrology and his final reflections on judgment, oneness, and the future

Understanding the technology of emotions will help bring humanity into the future. Debra embarks on a compelling conversation with Blu, a marvelous being sent to Earth to teach us how to reconfigure our own emotional data drives when our files become corrupted or disorganized. By becoming fluent in navigating and processing our emotions, we create space for a more blissful, compassionate future.

Blu is a motivational speaker, artist, musician, host of the Deja Blu podcast, and co-founder of Florescence – a modern mystery school for women. Blu has dedicated the past decade to her understanding the medicinal nature of the plant kingdom as well as the archetypal nature of the collective unconscious. Blu's genius is in her ability to connect with the world that lies beyond our five senses while keeping her feet firmly planted on the ground so that she can bring us golden truths of beauty, love, and unity in a way that is playful and authentic.

Blu and Debra discuss Blu's mission, and how all of the pieces of her purpose are interwoven throughout her chart. A very Plutonian person with a strong 11th House, Blu is here to transmute fear into fearlessness, showing us all how to break our deep-seated cycles with softening and unconditional love.

While this episode is steeped in wisdom, it is tangible and approachable extra-sensory intelligence brought to you by the effervescent synergy of Blu and Debra. Don't just dip your toes in- take the dive into this revolutionary exchange between two inspiring and whimsical minds.

Listen to Debra on Deja Blu podcast here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/astrology-and-your-role-in-the-revolution-with/id1480169551?i=1000605424766

• Pluto in Aquarius giving humanity the power to rewrite the future

• The importance of admitting to judgements and staying transparent

• Blu's extra sensory perception that has given her a unique truth filter

• Blu's work with plant medicine and the permission slip Astrology provided her

• The definition of grace and how Blu has embodied its definition

[01:11] Blu's introduction

[03:02] One of the reasons Debra started this podcast, leading into meeting Blu and how it has instilled hope

[04:30] Pluto has entered Aquarius

[05:00] The meaning of Blu being born under the auspicious influence of Pluto

[06:12] Viewing and discussing Blu's Astrological chart

[08:55] Blu's extra sensory perception that has given her a unique truth filter

[10:51] What Blu was like as a little girl

[11:45] The first cycle Debra evaluates in her Astrology system

[12:07] The typical manifestation of the 11th House personality type and how it's different than Blu's personality

[13:00] The effects of Neptune transiting Pisces through the last few years

[13:40] What Blu would suggest as a change of the human experience

[15:30] How to get to radical acceptance

[18:08] What Blu wishes people would do…

[19:27] The soul as described by a Sagittarius Rising

[21:28] The shadow of dishonor and coming back into a heart-centered place

[22:26] BSMT- what it means and how it helps Blu traverse and process emotions without forming an emotional weapon

[23:29] When Blu and Debra first met

[24:53] The importance of admitting to judgements and staying transparent

[25:28] Debra shares about how Blu inspired her

[25:44] How Debra checks in daily and yearly with prayer and karma

[27:00] Blu speaking to plant medicine and how that is indicated in her Astrological chart

[33:00] A view on healing in the Aquarian age

[36:08] Is Blu an optimist or a pessimist, and how does she view the future?

[38:18] The big takeaway and gift within this podcast

[39:38] What Debra reminds Blu of

[40:16] A call to let go of the ego/comparisonitis and press the free will button

[40:52] Debra's prayer every day of her pregnancy

[42:16] The shifts that happened as Debra processed her first podcast interview with Blu

[44:00] Blu's reflection of what it will feel like to be in her fifties

[46:04] Musings on timelessness and authenticity that everyone has rights to in the name of spiritual and human evolution

[47:48] The pinnacle of the human experience as described by Blu

[48:26] A call to be prepared to fall in love

[49:45] Blu's function as an example in this life and Debra's contribution to her cause

[51:15] Adding another dimension of magic into our human existence

[51:50] Debra disclosed a secret on Blu's podcast

[52:11] A recap of Blu's Astrological chart and what it says about her contributions and purpose

Return to nature to heal… that's one of the major messages in this unencumbered and evolutionary conversation with Dr. Zach Bush. Zach Bush, MD is a renowned, multi-disciplinary physician of internal medicine, endocrinology, hospice care and internationally recognized educator on the microbiome as it relates to human health, soil health, food systems, and a regenerative future.

Zach joins Debra and covers a vast array of subjects; from our unawareness of the faults in the American food system to the sixth extinction to microbiomes to the importance of reconnecting to nature and its integral part in our healing and future. This conversation is interwoven with the radically different and futuristic visions that are absolutely achievable, broken down by Zach's Aquarius Rising.

Debra walks through Zach's Astrological chart and details the placements that point to Zach's mindset, his purpose, and a specific message from the Divine. Zach and Debra take us through so many important subjects and questions for ourselves like, "What is our co-creative role in creating with the Divine?"

This is not an episode to miss as the roads Zach and Debra traverse in conversation ultimately lead to what they have dubbed our next pandemic of falling in love…

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• Why we all need to return to nature

• The moment that Zach moved into his life's mission

• Some of Zach's biggest motivators as described by his Astrological chart

• Reflections on the flaws of the American food system and its industries

• The optimism around the sixth extinction

[01:09] How Zach and Debra got connected

[02:30] The introduction of Dr. Zach Bush

[03:08] Circling back to Debra's first podcast interview with shared reflections on Jeff Orlowski's Chasing Coral and the state of the American food system

[06:58] Zach's Scorpio influence in his chart and how it has played out

[09:05] The lack of Earth energy in Zach's chart and what the natural rhythm of his Astrological chart is

[09:53] Zach's engineering prowess and commitment to alternative fuel sources and chemotherapy approaches

[14:12] Zach's futuristic visions linked to his Aquarius Rising

[15:59] Sharing Zach's Astrological chart

[15:59] Sharing Zach's Astrological chart

[19:02] Zach's journey so far leaning into his purpose and the catalytic moment that put him on his life path

[22:55] Is Zach an optimist or pessimist about humanity?

[25:21] "Is there a God?"

[26:23] "What is the root cause?"

[28:17] Isolation as a cell, as a human being, and as our self

[32:57] "I wish people would…"

[36:08] What it means to have humans connected to soil systems

[41:10] The original wound of humanity

[43:59] Zach's optimistic view of getting out of the broken cycle of humanity

[44:47] The healing power of nature

[46:50] The last time Zach cried

[48:39] Who Zach would love to have a conversation with

[53:30] Feeling disheartened by the human condition and the realization that will change things

[55:30] The acknowledgment of Zach's soul purpose

[56:34] Wisdom for the transition of humanity

Empowerment and finding your unique lane and understanding your unique contribution is what we are missing in today's world. Put in another way, understanding your self and finding your purpose is the key to unlocking many of our collective issues. That's the mission behind Debra's extensive work pairing Astrology and psychology, and it's a boldly-embodied mission of our guest, Janne Robinson.

Blunt, raw, and immediately accessible emotionally, intellectually, and spiritually to all who read her words, Janne Robinson is a societal visionary, author, film director, and coach who swings from the very first sentence. Robinson's work as an artist and facilitator is to encourage people to become accessible to their truths. She believes that our world is sick—and truth is our medicine.

Janne and Debra share many common threads- from the celebration of women's power and entrepreneurship, to the liberation of our planet, to the brightly-colored tapestry that is a Gemini's personality, and so much in between. Debra highlights these connections and also breaks down where there are differences between her and Janne as seen in Janne's Astrological chart, like how the big, spontaneous, and loud effects of Jupiter play a part in giving Janne "extra juju".

Hitchhike on a moving trip to Sedona that Janne recalls having a profound impact on her, and how leaning into the indigenous lessons of that trip have instilled new perspectives on the importance of being in right relation to the planet and to others. This conversation with Janne and Debra is rich with wisdom on our history as tribal people, the power of intuition, and individual empowerment with authentic living.

"Let there be no reason to not eat this life alive." Enjoy!

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• Empowerment and leaning into your purpose

• How everyone identifying their own unique lane (and staying in) would be a game-changer

• Moving out of outdated societal perspectives

• Happiness in life does not equate to the economy game we play

• How Astrology helps to integrate and name parts of who we are

[03:11] How Janne would describe herself and her work

[04:50] Janne's three books

[05:55] Janne's Astrological chart

[08:06] Janne's thoughts on how we help the planet and her big message

[11:00] What Janne wishes people would do

[11:44] Something that Janne can't live without

[12:51] What Janne would be doing if she wasn't captured by her cause

[14:02] Janne's definition of liberation

[15:00] A shared function of the Gemini energy in Janne and Debra

[16:16] Looking back at Janne's chart and identifying Janne's energy

[16:57] The gift of Astrology in identifying your purpose

[17:30] How Janne works with women

[18:32] Janne's perspective as a Renaissance woman and how that shows up in her work

[20:32] Where Janne and Debra are different (a nod to Taurus and Gemini)

[21:59] Debra's perspective on intimacy and relationships

[23:50] How Janne's commitment to being so thoroughly herself shows up in her chart

[26:52] How we lived in the past and how we are living (and need to live) now

[28:51] How we can be colorful without wearing a costume

[29:11] What Janne was like growing up, building her own world, and how that connects to her Astrological chart

[30:58] Who Janne would want to have a conversation with across time and history

[32:00] Janne's experience in Sedona and what she felt in her intuitive body

[36:46] The last time Janne had a good cry

[38:05] Janne's experiences with and reflections on Astrology

[39:18] What Janne wished Debra asked her about

[41:17] A message from Debra on comparisonitis

[42:47] The right answers to moving forward

[43:58] Finishing with a prayer

[45:04] Where and how to find Janne

[47:06] Janne's reflections of appreciation towards Debra

If the road from scarcity to prosperity isn't on your map, it's time to pave your own road. Debra connects with Jolie Dawn, an intuitive business coach, writer for Entrepreneur Magazine, and the bestselling author of eight Amazon books including Empowered, Sexy and Free.

Embodying the title of her work, Jolie reflects on the myriad of ways that the Universe put her on the path to where she is now, helping her create her very own road to prosperity and deep self-love. Armed with the tools Jolie collected through her life experiences, her life's work is financial empowerment through entrepreneurship with support from a trauma-informed way.

Jolie and Debra discuss the implications of abundant Earth energy. Using Jolie's Astrological chart Debra shows the high road and low road and how it has manifested in Jolie's life. Jolie and Debra also take a deep dive into Jolie's family life, highlighting the differences in generational perspectives and how the choices Jolie made in her life were vastly different from her parents.

Jolie embodies the freedom to follow your own rhythm on your own terms; this conversation highlights catalytic moments and will inspire you to think about your own scarcity mindset and self-doubt. Speaking of a shift in mindset, if you have any doubts or ambivalence about Astrology, tune in for Jolie's first hand experience of how her time with Debra shifted her perspective on the power and accuracy of Astrology.

• Jolie's road from scarcity to prosperity

• How trauma can be a catalyst for mindset shifts

• The spectrum of Earth energy and how it can play out

• The importance of following your own rhythm

• How much Jolie's Astrological practice has impacted her

[00:52] Introduction of Jolie Dawn

[02:09] Who Jolie is within the business world

[04:05] The writer in Jolie

[05:16] The juxtaposition of Jolie's Earth and Debra's Air in their Astrological charts

[06:20] A message about youth experiences and the functions of the brain

[06:50] A traumatic event in Jolie's life and how it affected her life

[10:20] Discussing Jolie's Astrological chart

[13:40] Jolie's Saturn Return and her mother's passing

[15:40] The transmutation of parental and generational karma

[16:35] What Jolie's focus would be if she wasn't focused on online business and how it relates to her Rising Sign

[17:37] "I wish people would…"

[18:37] Something in life Jolie couldn't live without

[18:58] Someone no longer living that Jolie would love to have a conversation with

[19:23] What Jolie loves about her career

[20:22] The wisdom Jolie would love to impart on her younger self

[21:12] Jolie's Moon sign and why she sometimes wishes she had a different Moon sign in her chart

[23:34] How much Jolie's Astrological practice has impacted her

[24:48] The generational differences between Debra and Jolie

[26:50] The rejection Debra received in her graduate studies

[27:50] What turns Jolie on about work

[28:31] Jolie's experience of reframing prosperity from what her mother taught her and how her past relationship was part of the catalyst to support her karmic future

[32:11] Jolie's past ambivalence about Astrology and how her mindset shifted with Debra

[33:55] What stayed with Jolie the most in her time studying with Debra

[34:56] What Debra saw with Jolie's growth from studying Astrology

[35:57] The distinction in Debra's Astrological studying system

[36:25] Debra's gratitude for Jolie and Jolie sharing a funny line about their friendship