Learning how to understand your dreams can help you connect to the language of your soul and the spirit world. Our dream time is sacred, and there are benevolent messages even in our scariest nightmares. Debra sits with Athena Laz, Spiritual Dream Teacher, Depth Psychologist, and author of The Alchemy of Your Dreams and The Deliberate Dreamer's Journal, to discuss the powerful root of your dreams and their messages. 

 

Athena explains that everyone dreams, and everyone has the ability to create a deeper connection to their dream world and intuition, enhancing our connection to nature, the collective, and ultimately our own souls.

 

Debra describes how Athena’s Astrological chart points exactly to Athena’s life work, and Athena echoes Debra’s Astrological interpretations with excitement and an enthusiastic interest in joining Debra’s Applied Astrology school.

 

Tune into this episode to learn more about the connection between dreaming and major collective events (like the pandemic and natural disasters), what repetitive dreams really mean, and what practices you can start to better understand your dreams and expand the horizons of your dream world and intuition.

 

Find Athena on Instagram: @athena_laz

Get a copy of Athena’s book, The Alchemy of Your Dreams: https://amzn.to/3JsCxUP

Start your dream journaling journey with Athena’s The Deliberate Dreamer’s Journal:  https://amzn.to/3NKUws6 

Key Highlights From The Episode

• How to understand your dreams to connect to the language of your soul and the spirit world

• How a dream journaling practice will enhance your dream world

• The mere practice of putting your awareness on the potential of your dream experience can increase your dream frequency, even for those people that don’t remember their dreams

• Athena’s first experience with Astrology and her renewed interest in the subject as evidenced by her excitement around Debra’s interpretation of her Astrological chart and enrolling in Debra’s Applied Astrology school

• The nature of precognitive dreams and the benevolent interpretation of nightmares

Timestamps

[00:50] Introduction of the subject matter of this podcast episode

[01:28] Does Athena believe in Astrology? Her experience with her first reading

[01:58] Athena’s introduction

[04:09] Athena’s drawing the connection between dreams, climate consciousness, and the pandemic

[07:09] When Pluto was discovered and the connection to the Death card in Tarot

[07:54] Debra and Athena share their dreams about tsunamis

[08:35] Anxiety arising as a societal symptom amidst radical change

[10:01] A big theme of Athena’s Astrological chart shows her as the futurist

[10:18] Debra sharing a story about a child dreaming of disaster the night before the September 11th attacks, and a precognitive dream Debra had not long after that

[11:30] Athena explains precognitive or prophetic dreaming and the importance of a dream journaling practice

[13:24] Debra shares and discusses Athena’s Astrological chart, describing Athena’s connection to her work

[15:09] Athena’s affirmation of Debra’s interpretation of her Astrological chart

[15:26] Athena answers Debra’s question about what the difference is between those who have a rich dream world and those who don’t remember their dreams

[18:00] Who is giving us messages in our dreams?

[19:16] Debra sharing a dream of a deceased loved one and the showing of her shadow

[21:05] How Athena has interpreted dreams for others and aims to teach people how to do it for themselves

[21:43] Debra shares some of her own experience with dream interpretation

[22:28] How dream interpretation theories can be too prescriptive and the importance of maintaining the perspective of your own intuition

[23:55] The range of dreaming viewpoints (Debra references Jung and Freud) 

[24:13] Debra sharing a very obvious message from a “loud” dream of a client

[24:44] Debra speaks to the importance of writing dreams out and speaking the dreams out loud; Athena echoes those sentiments

[25:36] Athena shares a personal example of reframing a nightmare into a benevolent message

[28:04] The message behind repetitive dreams

[28:26] Carl Jung’s dream perspective that helped Debra

[29:27] Debra asks Athena what she would be talking about all the time if she wasn’t talking about dreams

[30:02] What Athena wishes people would

[30:13] What Athena couldn’t live without

[30:48] Someone throughout history that Athena would love to have a conversation with if she could

[31:18] Athena shares her newer interest in the Tarot 

[31:37] The last time Athena had a good cry

[33:03] Athena shares what she would change about herself if she could, and Debra connects that to Athena’s Astrological chart

[32:37] Athena shares more about her Astrology experience and interest, and Debra invites her to Applied Astrology school!

[33:09] What Debra would be focusing on in this lifetime if she wasn’t an Astrologer

[34:14] Debra shares her gratitude for Athena and her life’s work, and Athena shares her gratitude for their serendipitous connection