What separates great leaders from ones who quietly destroy their teams? And when you're the one burning out at the top — do you stay or go? Keely Spring, licensed therapist and executive coach in the San Francisco Bay Area, breaks down the inner psychology of leadership, what executive coaching actually is, and why most people calling themselves coaches probably aren't.

In This Episode

Key Takeaways

🔑 The energy audit isn't about adding to your plate — it's about gathering data so you know where to work the edges.

🔑 Cognitive distortions don't stay home when you go to work. Name it → check your evidence → reframe.

🔑 Coaching is strategic and time-limited. Therapy goes deeper into patterns and history. You may need both.

Resources Mentioned

Brittani's Resources:

Website: ⁠https://www.brittaniprocknow.com/⁠

IG: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/brittani_procknow⁠

Intimacy Workbook: ⁠https://howtorelate.kit.com/b956780219⁠

Newsletter: ⁠https://howtorelate.kit.com/e9f87bb2dc⁠

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What if the problem in your relationship isn’t the argument you keep having—but the pattern underneath it?

Therapist Carole Cullen explores how couples can move from disconnection to deeper intimacy using a mix of structured tools, emotional processing, and experiential learning.

Carole shares how she integrates the John Gottman Method and Emotionally Focused Therapy (EFT), why traditional 50-minute sessions often fall short, and how immersive couples intensives can create breakthroughs in just a few days.

We also dive into her innovative membership model, The Work of Us, which combines therapy, community, and real-life experiences—from Pilates to equine-assisted learning—to help couples reconnect outside the therapy room.

If you’ve ever felt stuck in the same conflict loop, this episode will help you understand why—and what actually creates change.

Carole's Resources:

Website: https://mytherapistnc.org/

Couples Workshops: https://www.couplesworkshopsnc.com/

Brittani's Resources

Website: ⁠https://www.brittaniprocknow.com/⁠

IG: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/brittani_procknow⁠

Intimacy Workbook: ⁠https://howtorelate.kit.com/b956780219⁠

Newsletter: ⁠https://howtorelate.kit.com/e9f87bb2dc⁠

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What happens when artificial intelligence enters the therapy room—both with clinicians and clients?

Ann Dypiangco, LCSW, is a therapist in private practice and co-creator of Therapist Brief, a newsletter for therapists navigating tech, research, and the changing landscape of mental health care. She also works at the intersection of clinical practice and emerging technology in her roles at Blueprint.ai and Mental Health Match.

From AI-generated therapy notes to clients turning to chatbots for emotional support, we explore what’s changing, what’s concerning, and where there’s actually opportunity.

Ann's Resources:

Podcast Resources

Website: https://www.brittaniprocknow.com/

IG: https://www.instagram.com/brittani_procknow

Intimacy Workbook: https://howtorelate.kit.com/b956780219

Newsletter: https://howtorelate.kit.com/e9f87bb2dc

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What if you stopped trying to make the perfect decision—and instead focused on making the best bet?

In this episode, Brittani sits down with Daniel to explore how poker strategy—especially ideas from Thinking in Bets—can transform the way we think about relationships, career choices, and everyday decision-making.

They break down concepts like probability thinking, emotional regulation, and “playing the long game,” and apply them to real-life scenarios like dating burnout, job searching, and running a business.

If you’ve ever spiraled after a “bad outcome” or questioned your choices, this episode will help you zoom out, rethink control, and make more grounded, confident decisions.

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Website: https://www.brittaniprocknow.com/

IG: https://www.instagram.com/brittani_procknow

Intimacy Workbook: https://howtorelate.kit.com/b956780219

Newsletter: https://howtorelate.kit.com/e9f87bb2dc

Daniel's Substack The Disrupted Therapist:

In this episode, we’re diving into modern dating—offline and online—from being pitched at a live singles event to unpacking the realities of situationships, emotional availability, and what it really means when someone says they “don’t know what they want.”

Key Takeaways:

Podcast Resources

Website: https://www.brittaniprocknow.com/

IG: https://www.instagram.com/brittani_procknow

Intimacy Workbook: https://howtorelate.kit.com/b956780219

Newsletter: https://howtorelate.kit.com/e9f87bb2dc

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If you feel like you’re having the same argument over and over again—this episode is for you.

In this solo episode, we'll break down the hidden dynamics driving conflict in relationships, including core negative images, pursuer-withdrawer patterns, and the vulnerability underneath reactivity.

You’ll learn how to understand your conflict cycle, take ownership without defensiveness, and repair in a way that actually creates connection.

Brittani's Resources

Website: https://www.brittaniprocknow.com/

IG: https://www.instagram.com/brittani_procknow

Intimacy Workbook: https://howtorelate.kit.com/b956780219

Newsletter: https://howtorelate.kit.com/e9f87bb2dc

Support the show and drink coffee! Proud to have Larry's Coffee as a show sponsor. Keep caffeinated with quality coffee. https://larryscoffee.com/relate

What is imposter syndrome, and why do so many successful people still feel like they don’t belong?

In this episode of How to Relate, Brittani and Drew explore the psychology of imposter syndrome, including the fear of being “found out,” chronic self-doubt, and the pressure to prove ourselves in work, dating, and relationships.

Unpack how imposter syndrome shows up in everyday life—from dating anxiety and people-pleasing to parenting pressure and professional perfectionism—and discuss practical ways to challenge the inner critic and build self-trust.

You'll Learn:

What imposter syndrome actually is

The fear of being “found out” as a fraud

How imposter syndrome develops

Perfectionism, comparison, and performance pressure

How imposter syndrome shows up in dating and relationships

The connection between embarrassment and shame

Imposter syndrome in careers and parenting

Practical ways to challenge self-doubt and build self-trust

Support the show and drink coffee! Proud to have Larry's Coffee as a show sponsor. Keep caffeinated with quality coffee. https://larryscoffee.com/relate 

Brittani's Resources

Website: https://www.brittaniprocknow.com/

IG: https://www.instagram.com/brittani_procknow

Intimacy Workbook: https://howtorelate.kit.com/b956780219

Newsletter: https://relate-co.kit.com/e9f87bb2dc

What if the key to better decisions—in your life, relationships, and business—wasn’t more intuition, but better data?

In this episode, Brittani sits down with therapist Everett Uhl to explore how data-driven decision making can transform the way we approach our careers, personal habits, and even emotional awareness. They dive into the hidden problems with many therapy trainings, the pressure therapists feel to constantly “level up,” and why tracking the right metrics might matter more than adding another certification.

From sleep scores and protein intake to client referrals and lifetime customer value, this conversation explores how information—not impulse—can help you build a more sustainable and aligned life.

If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by self-improvement culture or unsure how to make clearer decisions in your work or relationships, this episode offers a refreshing framework: use your feelings as data, not directives.

Everett's Training

Work with Everett: https://www.everettuhltherapy.com/ 

Brittani's Resources

Work with me: https://www.brittaniprocknow.com/

Intimacy Workbook: https://howtorelate.kit.com/b956780219

Newsletter: https://relate-co.kit.com/e9f87bb2dc

In this episode of How to Relate, therapist Bianca Hughes joins Brittani to explore the exhausting cycle of perfectionism, the pressure to meet others’ expectations, and what it truly means to live in alignment with your authentic self. Bianca shares her personal journey—including selling her home and taking a global sabbatical—to illustrate how reconnecting with your true identity can create freedom, trust, and joy.

You'll understand how perfectionism develops, why authenticity is often suppressed, and how small mindset shifts can help you reconnect with who you really are. If you’ve ever felt stuck trying to be “enough,” this conversation will help you rethink success, identity, and what it means to live authentically.

In This Episode We Cover

Why perfectionism often develops in high achievers

The hidden cost of living by others’ expectations

What authenticity actually means (beyond the buzzword)

How Bianca’s sabbatical changed her relationship with work, identity, and consumerism

Why trusting yourself is the foundation of confidence

How to create your own version of a “sabbatical” without quitting your life

Why living authentically benefits everyone around you

Bianca's Resources:

Website: https://www.authenticallybeyou.com/

IG: https://www.instagram.com/authenticallybeyou

Brittani's Resources

Weekly Newsletter: ⁠⁠https://relate-co.kit.com/e9f87bb2dc⁠⁠

Work together: ⁠https://www.brittaniprocknow.com/⁠

IG: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/brittani_procknow⁠

Intimacy Workbook: ⁠https://howtorelate.kit.com/b956780219⁠

It's a solo episode! Together we'll explore how shame quietly shapes our reactions, conflict patterns, and intimacy. Drawing from the work of Brené Brown, Joseph Burgo, and John Gottman, she breaks down the four “buckets” of shame, how shame turns into defensiveness, and why we project our internal stories onto the people we love most.

You’ll learn how to move from reaction to responsibility — and how real intimacy begins when you stop delegating your self-worth to someone else.

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Brittani's Resources

Work with me: https://www.brittaniprocknow.com/

IG: https://www.instagram.com/brittani_procknow

Intimacy Workbook: https://howtorelate.kit.com/b956780219