In this heartfelt and often hilarious episode of How We Made Your Mother, Josh Radnor and Craig Thomas welcome Ashley Williams—beloved for her role as Victoria—for an in-depth conversation that’s as much about How I Met Your Mother as it is about surviving (and thriving) in the world of multi-cam sitcoms. They reflect on the intimacy and cinematic tone of “Drumroll, Please,” the silliness of “Zip, Zip, Zip,” and the powerful creative safety net provided by director Pam Fryman. Ashley opens up about her early industry struggles, hard lips during on-screen kisses, and the healing experience of joining the HIMYM cast. The trio explore actor insecurities, audition stories, set dynamics, and why the show’s environment was unlike anything else on TV. Bonus: a surprise appearance by Ashley’s tap-dancing husband Neil, a conversation about kissing technique, and some deep theater-kid camaraderie.

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