A fundamental question looms over this whole crisis: when it ends, how will things be different? Will people work from home more, will brick-and-mortar businesses disappear at a faster rate. Will people have to pivot in increasing numbers to hold on to income streams? The answer to all of these could very well be, "Heck, yeah." George Kurtyka, co-founder of Joust, knows what it's like to pivot and we'll lean heavily today on his background and seat at the small-business table, as we talk "all things changin'" on today's episode.

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