Today's episode captures a monumental moment in Grove history!  On May 4, 2020, the Grove went LIVE online for the first time ever! We had the privilege of hosting Jackie Hill Perry as our special surprise guest that evening, and this episode brings you the compelling conversation she shared with Shelley Giglio. Chock-full of real talk, they cover self-denial, holiness, and true, gut-level accountability.  If you want to see more from Jackie, check out jackiehillperry.com and be sure to stay tuned with all things Grove at thegroveonline.com!