We talked with Jordan and Elise Hawkins about the massive shift their marriage has made from discussing an annulment on their honeymoon to having hope in every conflict. They talk about their pasts triggering their present, hurting each other in the process and ultimately learning to connect with compassion in order to forgive. They walked through deep hurt and have come out on the other side with so much hope. They also share how a fear of sharks can make you last longer and how attempting to gain leverage can squish your spouse. 

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