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In part two of Gary's chat with recently retired Scotland Yard Detective David Leach, the pair talk about David's work in some very high-profile counter-terrorism investigations and his work on a decade-old unsolved murder.

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Not everyone can say they stared down a serial killer, but recently retired Scotland Yard Murder Squad and Counter Terrorism Detective David Leach has done just that. In part one of his chat with Gary, David talks about the investigation that led to the arrest of Levi Bellfield, a serial killer that had been terrorising London until his arrest in 2004.

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In part two of Ben and Amy Smith's conversation with Gary, the pair describe the strain of being accused of sexual assault, the experience of going through court and what it felt like to hear the jury finally deliver their verdict. 

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Ben and Amy Smith saw their world turned upside down when Ben was arrested and charged with multiple sexual assaults. The former policeman maintained his innocence and Amy stood by him, gathering the evidence that would eventually clear his name.

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John Elias knows he's no angel. A shooting, match-fixing, drug and firearm offences - are just some of the crimes he was linked to or convicted of. But John is sharing his story because he thinks there is a lesson to be taken from it, and he hopes young people hear it. 

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John Elias' rap sheet goes far beyond on-field indiscretions. As a 16-year-old he was serving time in Long Bay Prison with some of the hardest prisoners in the state. After prison, he carved out a career for himself as a high-profile professional rugby league player, but like a moth to a bright light, he was drawn to the adrenaline of the criminal world.

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In 2007, the Federal Government launched the Northern Territory Emergency Response, also known as the Intervention. It included restrictions on alcohol, changes to welfare payments, acquisitions of parcels of lands, education, employment and health initiatives, restrictions on pornography and other measures. 

When Mary Keaney saw the confronting images on the news, she uprooted her life to travel there and work for the Aboriginal Legal Aid Service.

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Mary Keaney grew up a rebel with a strong social conscience, she spent her youth protesting, fighting for the environment and other important causes. Then, in her 20s, she read Nelson Mandela's autobiography and learnt that if you want to fight the system, you first need to understand it. That simple message sent her on a path to becoming a lawyer. 

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In part two of Gary's chat with former Assistant Commissioner Ken Mckay, the pair discuss what it really takes to crack down on gang violence and how the media both helps and hinders the efforts. 

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Ken 'Slasher' Mckay spent 35 years in the police, rising the the rank of Assistant Commissioner. He's an old school cop who locked up plenty of bikies and underworld figures in his time. In part 1, he and Gary talk about some of his cases and he shares his opinion on the current state of policing. 

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