On today’s episode, Andy sits down with former FBI agent Dan Brunner to discuss ICE’s reactivated access to Graphite, an Israeli-made spyware capable of infiltrating phones, reading encrypted apps like WhatsApp and Signal, and even activating microphones. Originally signed under Biden but paused for review, the $2 million contract has raised concern among civil liberties advocates. Critics warn that similar tools have been abused by authoritarian regimes against journalists and activists, highlighting potential threats to democratic freedoms, privacy, and national security. Brunner and Andy explore the risks of such technology and the safeguards that would be necessary to prevent the U.S. from repeating the same mistakes.

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