Kendall Ellis made her first Olympic team last year where she won the bronze in the Mixed Gender 4×4 and a gold medal in the Women’s 4×4 relay. She also finished 4th in the open 400m at the trials so she barely missed making it as and individual in the 400m. Kendall also has a gold medal in the 4×4 at the 2019 and 2017 World Championships. She ran for USC where she was a 3-time NCAA champion and 14-time All-American. She is training hard now for the world championships this summer.

Right around the time we recorded this podcast, she was part of the world’s fastest indoor distance medley relay team ever. 

I really enjoyed getting to know Kendall and I am really excited to cheer for her in future track events!

What we talked about:

3:15- Introduction to Kendall

4:35- How she is feeling training for the world championships coming off of her first Olympic team last year

6:15- How Kendall got into running

10:30- How her parents encouraged her in sports

12:25- The decision to go to USC

15:50- Her mindset around going professional

17:40- Anxiety that she has surrounding track and field

19:55- Following different levels of the sport

22:25- The viral moment of winning the USC 4×4 as the anchor

27:15- What training looks like for an Olympic level 400m runner

34:40- Being sponsored by New Balance

38:30- Placing 4th at the Olympic Trials last summer and her Olympic experience

51:10- Her love for reading

52:55- Biggest lesson that she learned from her Olympic experience

54:45- Partnering with Parity Now

55:10- What she plans to do after competing professionally

57:30- End of podcast questions

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Scott Fauble is on the show today for another bonus episode for the Boston Marathon interview series! Scott placed 7th at the Boston Marathon this year with a PR of 2:08:52. He was the top American to finish the Boston Marathon. Scott recently changed training groups and is now working with coach Joe Bosshard. In this episode, we talk about Scott’s coaching and training group change, his race at the Boston Marathon, and what he is excited about!

This is Scott’s 5th time on the show. You can also find him on episode 146, episode 166, episode 178, and episode 230. It was so fun having him back on the show after such a great race in Boston!

What we talked about:

3:40- What Scott has been up to since the Boston Marathon

5:00- Scott’s wedding

8:50- Recapping the Boston Marathon and marathon advice

15:30- Feelings after the Boston Marathon

23:35- Managing process goals versus time and place goals

24:55- Why Scott decided to work with Joe Bosshard as a coach

30:15- The decision to leave NAZ Elite

34:30- Getting out of his own way in racing

37:50- Immediate post race feelings

38:50- What he learned from Coach Ben Rosario

39:55- Where the sport of running needs to go

43:50- What is most important to him with a sponsor

51:10- Training in both Flagstaff and Boulder

51:40- End of podcast questions

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Danny Mackey is the head coach of the Brooks Beasts. He began his pro coaching career with a handful of athletes but quickly transitioned into the first and only coach for the Brooks Beasts. Danny has coached an Olympian, a World Record Holder, an American Record Holder, a Scottish Record Holder, and 4 World Medal winners. He focuses on helping professional athletes find their paths and overcome the complexities of high performance. 

Danny talks about his career, what coaching looks like for him and being a whistleblower of the Nike Oregon Project. 

What we talked about:

5:55- Danny’s own running career

11:10- Working with athletes to prioritize running

16:10- Working with athletes that are too laser focused on running

22:30- The cold plunge that he does

27:25- Getting the job at Brooks Beasts

30:10- Working at Nike and being a whistleblower on Alberto Salazar

49:35- Getting hired as the Brooks Beasts coach

54:55- Taking matters into his own hands when he wasn’t getting coaching jobs

1:01:45- Creating a team culture at Brooks Beasts

1:06:30- Coaching a wide range of distances

1:07:55- End of podcast questions

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Charlotte Purdue runs for the UK and she just placed 9th at the Boston Marathon running a time of 2:25:26. Charlotte was last on the podcast on episode 190 in July of 2019 if you want to hear more of her backstory. At the 2021 London Marathon she ran a personal best time of 2:23:26 which put her at the third fastest all time British marathoner. She was running really strong and looking to make the Olympic team in Tokyo and was not selected last year. She tells us all about that experience and what her career means beyond making an Olympic team.

What we talked about:

3:55- Recapping her race at the Boston Marathon

7:30- Her goals and expectations going into the Boston Marathon

14:40- Feelings about placing 9th 

17:45- Not being selected for the Olympics

21:55- Running a PR at the London Marathon 

27:30- Running the World Championships for the marathon this summer

33:30- Pacing a marathon in Japan

37:15- Training with Sinead Diver

40:05- Her coaching business

43:10- Following American distance running

44:45- Marathon majors that she wants to run 

46:50- End of podcast questions

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Ben Rosario has a new book out called Run Like a Pro (Even if You’re Slow) that includes some really great training plans, advice, tips, and simple ways we can incorporate useful training techniques into our training. He wrote this with Matt Fitzgerald.

Ben is the coach of NAZ Elite. We just had one of his athletes, Steph Bruce, on the podcast. They are adding so many new athletes to their roster. Ben shares what they will be focusing on in the next few years, gives us some team updates, shares about the book, and more!

What we talked about:

4:15- Catching up with Ben

8:30- Updates on NAZ Elite

15:10- What Ben envisions for the future of NAZ Elite

23:55- His book, Run Like a Pro Even if you’re Slow

43:55- Running by minutes versus miles

48:45- Having a champion mindset as a runner

55:05- Update on Steph Bruce

59:15- End of podcast questions

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Steph Bruce is on the podcast today for another bonus episode! Steph just had a great race at the Boston Marathon where she finished 12th overall and came in as the 2nd American. She ran a 2:28:02. Steph runs for NAZ Elite under coach Ben Rosario. She was diagnosed with a heart condition recently and has made the decision that this will be her last year running professionally. 

Steph has previously been on the show 5 times! She was also on episode 159, episode 207, episode 229, and episode 302.

It was so great to catch up with Steph. It has been a really great joy to follow her career of these years. Thank you Steph for all that you have done for the running community and we cannot wait to see what is next for you!

What we talked about:

6:15- Emotions about this being her last Boston Marathon 

7:50- Continuing to reach for goals even when going through really hard things

12:40- Being diagnosed with her heart condition

16:20- Her kids

18:55- Wanting more kids

21:00- Knowing it is her last year competing at the professional level

24:55- What she envisions doing after her running career and her legacy on the sport

34:50- Finding joy in each day

37:00- Who has had the greatest impact on her running career

44:00- Her upcoming racing plans

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Carrie Verdon ran her debut marathon at the Chicago Marathon this past year. She was the 5th American and 7th overall and she ran a 2:31. She ran the 5000 and the 10000 at the Olympic Trials last year. She placed 10th in the 5,000m and 27th in the 10,000m. She ran for the University of Colorado and then took a big break from running after college. She is back now training in full force and is definitely one to watch!

Carrie is a full-time teacher in Colorado. It was fun to hear from her about balancing her work as a teacher while training as a professional runner.

Carrie is coached by Lee Troop who was on the podcast last week so it’s fun to hear from one of his athletes this week!

What we talked about:

4:10- Carrie’s boyfriend and his cycling career

6:10- Carrie’s marathoning career

8:05- Her break from running after college

18:00- Deciding to train with Lee Troop when coming back to running

20:45- What she is currently training for and what her training looks like

29:05- Trusting her training

30:00- The injuries that she battled in college

36:35- Her job as a teacher

41:20- Training in Moab

42:05- Her year of racing plans

43:05- Racing at the Olympic Trials

47:30- Her recent PR in the 10k

50:10- The break that she takes after a season

51:20- Flexibility in training

53:40- End of podcast questions

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Adrianne Haslet just completed the Boston Marathon! Adrianne is a Boston bombing survivor and has had an incredible journey to get to the start line of the 2022 Boston Marathon healthy. Though she lost her leg in the bombing she set out with determination and perseverance to one day complete the Boston Marathon. This was her second time completing the race but the first time completing it with a full training cycle. She completed the race in 2016 coming in last place in over 10 hours and this year completed it in 5 hours, placing fourth in the brand new Para Division that she has been a HUGE advocate for.

Over the years since the 2013 Boston Marathon, Adrianne has had massive setbacks, including getting hit by a car in 2019 which left her with some serious injuries.

In this episode Adrianne shares with us what this race meant to her, training with Shalane Flanagan and running the race side by side with her, and most importantly she reminds us to celebrate our lives – the big and the small. It all matters. It was a joy and an honor to talk with Adrianne for this podcast. What a gift she is to us all!

What we talked about:

5:00 – Adrianne’s story growing up
10:00 – Why this Boston Marathon was so important to Adrianne

23:00 – Importance of raising Iron levels for marathon training
27:00 – How Adrianne and her boyfriend Harry met
30:00- Adrianne’s dog Fred Asstair 
37:00 – Ad Spot
40:00 – 2013 Boston Marathon
44:00 – 2019 Boston Marathon Training/Car Accident 
52:00 – Not playing small in life 
1:08 – Crossing the finish line of the Boston Marathon for the third time
1:12 – Playin running and having fun in the process – Training with Shalane
1:15 – Para Division at the Boston Marathon
1:26 – Boston being the best day of Adrianne’s life
1:28 – Creating more Para 
1:30 – Limbs of Love
1:38 – End of Podcast Questions

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Lee Troop is a 3 time Olympic marathoner from Australia. He ran in the 2000, 2004, and 2008 Olympics. He is now a coach. He coaches youth, community runners, elite runners, and he is very involved in the running scene in Boulder. He is the coach to Jack Riley, one fo the three men who made the 2020 Team USA Olympic Team. He is also the coach to Carrie Verdon who will be on the show next week!

He is the father of 3 kids. He is really open and honest about his running, his coaching, and some really hard times that he has walked through. 

What we talked about:

3:55- Athletes and social media

8:30- Coaching

16:55- Race strategies

23:25- The passing of Jon Gray

30:10- Being an unsponsored group and his mindset on how and why he coaches

38:15- What needs to be talked about in terms of athletes and mental health

1:02:45- End of podcast questions

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Malindi Elmore is a returning guest on the show! She came on the podcast on episode 222 in January 2020 after she ran the Canadian record in the marathon. Go back and listen to that one first if you want an introduction to Malindi’s story and journey to get to marathoning success.

Malindi just ran the Boston Marathon where she placed 11th. She also ran the Olympic Marathon in Tokyo this past summer where she placed 9th! The Boston Marathon was only her fourth marathon. 

Malindi is the mother of two and at 42 she is running her fastest marathon times and really finding success in this third part of her career. She was a 1500 meter runner and represented Team Canada on the track in the Olympics in 2004 and then went on to compete in Ironman Triathlon where she found success before running her first marathon in 2019 after having their second baby.

In this episode, we talked about both her Olympic Marathon and Boston Marathon experience. She talks about her goals going into both marathons, thoughts on the Boston Marathon course, the memories that she is taking away from the Olympics, and more!

What we talked about:

3:50- Boston recap

10:30- Her goals going into the Boston marathon

13:30- Racing and training with Natasha Wodak

14:45- Being coached by her husband

19:05- Her resurgence in her running career

21:50- Her race at the 2020 Olympic Marathon

29:05- The memories that she is taking away from the 2020 Olympics

33:00- Keeping a positive mindset when things go wrong in the training

38:50- A typical day for Malindi and her family

49:10- Goal marathons that she has and the goals that she has for her running career

52:20- Advice to anyone running the Boston Marathon course

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